Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[Goat]

Hi All

I just did a bit more searching on the NST and found an 1996 article that had mention of the Bertonee company and their telephone number.

I gave them a call and they said they no longer make the NPS-12D8 but that they have the NPS-12D10S model which has the same specs.  Their website is at http://www.ventextech.com/

Edit:  The link for the NPS-12D10S is at http://www.ventextech.com/#gen4!12%20VDC
Edit2: One of the D. Smith pdf with a reference to the NST also had an ISBN for a book to calculate the resistor on the isolation transformer, it showed up at http://books.google.ca/books?id=y_siAAAAMAAJ&q=ISBN+0-672-22469-0&dq=ISBN+0-672-22469-0

Handbook of electronics tables and formulas By Howard W. Sams & Co, Howard W. Sams & Co. Engineering Staff

Regards,
Paul

[jeanna]

Thank You Slapper. This is great.

http://www.neonpro.com/docc/Product-NPS-120.htm

INPUT   :    120VAC 60Hz 0.5A   -    60W
OUTPUT:    5kV 30mA               -  150W

Am I missing something?

What is the question?

@Goat

I am no expert either but certain things he says do sound funny but there are other things that could be the key to ones project.
One thing I dont understand in his amplifier how come L2 one part of the coil has parralel cap and the other is open? This would render 2 parts of L2 out of sync immidiately. Makes me wonder if a second parralel cap for another part of L2 is not shown or taken out for security and demo purposes. I am probably wrong.

Thank You

Minde

I remember him saying something like:

'This electricity is around us all the time. And, it is in balance.
It needs to be thrown OUT of balance for us to be able to use it.'

Perhaps, you have identified his method of throwing it out of balance.
I do not recall hearing him tell us how he achieved this except to mention that lightning is a natural example of how it happens.

thank you,

jeanna

[the_big_m_in_ok]

Kapanadze's videos appear to be deleted without being announced as such.  The 'Web address is correct, but all I see is a black screen where the clip should be. 
This is on more than one occasion.
I anyone else having this problem?
--Lee

I was able to look at the video later at the address referenced in the post above.  It was a copy of the circuit similar to the Smith setup, elsewhere in this thread?

And,
NOTE:
It was related to me that Smith indicated, in his Resonant Sources... .pdf that powering his designs with A/C from a generator and then amplifying that, would be beneficial.  His words were to connect the lower end of the high voltage coil to an earth ground, so I do agree with that.
Independent verification is still needed on his designs.  Has that been done yet by anyone?

--Lee

[crowclaw]

Hi Minde

I was not aware that you had posted a link to these videos on this thread so that's why I gave credit to Dole.

The reason I got excited over this particular model is because Don Smith specified at the end of the video that "You don't have to know what you're doing at all" and that "you don't have to tune it" and that "the circuit takes care of that for you" !


In Video 4 of 5 at 7:19 Don Smith mentions that he'll show us how to make a simple one....He goes onto say that "most of the things that are in my devices which I demonstrate were put there because people expect to see them and not because they need to be there".


In Video 4 of 5 at around 8:00 he shows and draws the high voltage unit with a 1 turn primary and mentions that it's running A/C at 35,000 cps.  It's interesting that at 8:30 he says "The method I'm teaching you here you don't have to know about tuning" and "The length of the wire that goes on this coil is basically irrelevant because it's being pumped by the high voltage device here and that's going to set the frequency and that the length of the wire is not going to have anything to do with it so you don't have to know how to tune it to do this."

As I mentioned in my previous thread, I have never seen this model in the pdf's and I find it odd that everyone tends to stick to all the other more complicated models of his devices when this one seems...well...uncomplicated!

I'm not mentioning this to start anything or be contrary to what you said but nowhere in the video 4 of 5 and 5 of 5 did I hear him once mention resonance!

Maybe I'm naive or don't understand electronics enough and Don Smith is purposely misleading us here or he isn't, that's why I posted pictures of the circuit in the hopes that electronics people or electronics engineering might have useful input as to figuring out the circuit and components to use and formulas to calculate their values.

BTW...The NST was a Bertonee NPS-12D8 which had a CSA (Canadian Safety Association) certified symbol on it which probably was made in Canada at the time but I couldn't find any information on it either except for a post that mentioned using an NPS-12D10S as an equivalent.

Regards,
Paul

Hi Paul,
I am an electronics engineer and have been conducting experiments for some time using powered inductive coil loops, not a million miles away from what's being shown in the video clips 4 & 5. Firstly the output is stated at 35khz into L1, he uses a capacitor to tune L1 at resonance (or there abouts) he mentions a bank of capacitors, but I can only see one. These indeed have to be of a special construction to withstand the AC power levels through L1. Tunning L1 to resonance will give maximum Q and available power output at this frequency. Next L2 has more windings to achieve the correct ratio of step up, and like wise needs to be in resonance to achieve maximum output so another capacitor can be seen across the output of L2. A suitable value again must be selected (calculated) for this position. So now we have an AC output X times greater than the power supplies output as given by the coils turns ratio (L1,L2) so far so good. We see a transformer the primary of which is connected across L2, now we can't tune this winding with a capacitor without upsetting the tuned circuit of L2! _ a resistive element will tend to dampen the voltage across the primary, I can't see how it can act as a direct tunning device as in a conventional LC circuit? I haven't studied what we are trying to achieve here but can't see how he ends up with a relatively lower frequency at the moment?? I find it strange that his comments made that 'no tunning is necessary'... to put together a similar rig, especially when starting off with a fixed frequency. It may be possible to fabricate an L1 coil of certain dimensions and form to come somewhere near the operating wave lengths involved here but if this was the case it would require far more knowledge and work than is portraid in his video descriptions. For me it seems to go wrong at the transformer end and what happens thereafter? Is there another video to follow (6)... For those who  want to experiment, I use an LC circuit (as would be for L1) in a self resonating oscillator which does not require tunning, and powered from a low DC supply voltage. An oscillator driven LC circuit can be tricky to keep in resonance at high frequencies due to circuit drift and temperature variations. Merv 

[Goat]

@ crowclaw

Thank you for your time and explanations, I agree with you on many points but I still have some reservations.

1. From the end of video 4 and the posted circuit there are no capacitors involved.

2. Is the combination of the 3 point Spark gap to Earth Ground, L1, L2, Resistor, L3, L4, battery, Load, Varactor to Earth Ground running the load without depleting the battery as he mentioned? 

3. The capacitance may come from the coils of the (Primary) circuit and/or through the  Secondary to earth ground via the Varactor acting in conjunction with the circuit and earth grounds which is a separate ground from the battery?

I guess that what I would want to see about what Don Smith is saying in these 2 videos is if this circuit has any merit and has ever been proven through replication as is shown in the circuit from the end of vid 4 and all of the vid 5, is this possible to replicate given the information in the videos?

I'm thinking in the lines of...We're freezing here!...most OU designs I've seen require a resistive load
at the end of the circuit......why not use an electrical element for heat?   

Jeanna made some good comments about the resistor across the isolation transformer and her observations, here we have an almost same circuit as a JT but with more power, if she is seeing an anomaly in her circuit(s) at mA what about this circuit at 1 or more amps?

There's something about this circuit that bugs me....LOL

PS: @ crowclaw I forgot to ask, if you had a single turn Primary acting on the Secondary through induction as Don Smith mentioned would that burn out the HV NST transformer or would it keep going as long as the power transfer is OK in the rest of the circuit?

Regards,
Paul