Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[xenomorphlabs]

hello

i went thru patent and what i think hes using this 40V at 0.8A to positively energize the primery "coil" so second "coil" is trying to keep up so when connected to ground it "sucks" electrons from ground then when its balances (1 coil protons = 2 coil electrons) he disconnects the groung and then disconects 1 "coil" so he has charged 2 coil with electron to use

thats what i think hes doing

as i said in previest post its all in charging by induction andstatics ,it needs further investigation

wojsciech

This still does not explain how he manages to "suck" 18 amps (!) worth of electrons through the ground wire as can be seen in the outdoor video.
I personally am not so sure if the electrons don`t actually enter the coils from the air and actually move to the ground potential instead of the other way around, because Kapanadze states that the additional energy enters the system between 1st and 2nd coil (So does D. Smith)

We talk about 5 kW as the thread topic also reflects and that comes from a 12 Volt battery to start it up (later disconnected).
You said earlier:

in school they learned me this P= V x A
P power
V voltage
A amperage

so no mater if you have let say 10000V at 0.01A
                 or                          100V at 1A
you always have 100W of power

If any transformer would exhibit such an effect to have 5kW in the secondary circuit with under 10 watt in the primary, then this forum would not exist

Your point about inductive charging is valid, but the critical part of the device is factors like keeping the resonance when adding a load.
And that is what requires a practical solution that not too many people except Kapanadze figured out (yet).

[jeanna]

Is it not possible that the electrons are actually coming from the wire?

Then of course they could be replaced by the soil or the air/ether, but perhaps they do not need to come from anywhere but the wire.
This would mean the wire would lose electrons and I suppose the way you could test for this would be to check the charge on the wire after it has been used... and during its use...

I also suppose there would need to be many more tests than these, but I think this needs to be considered.

jeanna

[xenomorphlabs]

Is it not possible that the electrons are actually coming from the wire?

Then of course they could be replaced by the soil or the air/ether, but perhaps they do not need to come from anywhere but the wire.
This would mean the wire would lose electrons and I suppose the way you could test for this would be to check the charge on the wire after it has been used... and during its use...

I also suppose there would need to be many more tests than these, but I think this needs to be considered.

jeanna

Valid point and actually entirely true when you look at it from the scientific perspective that due to the secondary carrying AC the skin effect is in effect and actually the electrons in the wire are not moving at all but just oscillate back and forth :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_electricity

And if you look at it from that perspective, the charging by induction analogy is difficult to apply, because the examples in the youtube movie show electrostatic phenoma and in the Kapanadze transformer we have alternating currents.

[baroutologos]

@ Forest

State the publication that indeed Tesla said that in reletion to liquidification of gases.

(I know a theoretical study of someone from MIT that maintains the biffilar Tesla coil is similar to Linde liquification system, but IMO has nothing to do with it)

@all

as we all know, the ground is solid component to those systems. Actually we cannot suck electrons from ground, at least at large quantities or put in. In all probability the Ampere action measured is an OSCILLATING current between the machine and ground.

Again, for an oscillation of that large amount of current, in aparatus, there must be a capacity for storing it temporarily. Common capacitors or even Rf capacitors, if not connected both terminals, have infitesimal capacity. Only an air capacity can do that at large amps such as a tesla coil topload.

Of course large amps can flow from ground to a machine and via capacitative coupling. E.g. like my solid state Tesla coil, when there is a high potential on one plate (again via using an air capacity) and grounding another plate.

But i do not think this is the case in Kapanadze system

[Pirate88179]

Only an air capacity can do that at large amps such as a tesla coil topload.

My ultracap (B-cap) can store and release 3,000 amps.  There are now b-caps with 3 times or more the capacitance of the one I am using so that number will be higher.

Bill