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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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forest said:
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Nikola Tesla "The problem of increasing human energy"  Century Illustrated Magazine, June 1900

May I ask how Tesla coil behaves when powered by the same voltage source but higher amps ? The same device I mean : what would happen if you put a bigger amperage into working TC primary ? Does it influence secondary voltage or current ?
Other researchers using Tesla coils said excessive current would quickly burn out the coil turns.    Spectacular visual effects.  Dangerous, too.  Well-insulated wire and proper resonance were imperative.
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Maybe it's so simple that almost embarrassing ? For example : only a TC coil sparking into receiver coil/transformer  via spark gap ... Of course not such dumb TC as shown on youtube but carefully matched to have equal mass primary to secondary and 1/4 wavelength. Zero current at ground connection and max voltage at elevate capacitance. For me it will work like a "vacuum cleaner"
Never heard of a TC built that way.  They always had a large step-up air core transformer---unless you mean "equal" mass of wire in weight or diameter cross section between the primary and secondary?
Good luck in your experiments.

--Lee
"Truth comes from wisdom and wisdom comes from experience."
--Valdemar Valerian from the Matrix book series

I'm merely a theoretical electronics engineer/technician for now, since I have no extra money for experimentation, but I was a professional electronics/computer technician in the past.
As a result, I have a lot of ideas, but no hard test results to back them up---for now.  That could change if I get a job locally in the Bay Area of California.

starcruiser

I think the air core transformer would do better due to frequency. I would say do not worry about amps in since the conversion of the HV via a transformer will increase the current for us when voltage is down converted by the transformer action. Focus on the conversion.

I believe it has to do with magnetic resonance and standing waves in the conversion coils. A oil filled cap at the output can finish converting it for us I think by shifting the phase to sync the current.

What do you think?

With the Don smith version it appears the spark gap assists in the conversion and isolates the primary tank of the aircore transformer L/C. The spark gap is providing the kicks (smells of SM doesn't it?) The real trick I believe is the source frequency of the HV driver (30khz) matched to the primary tank L/C (some harmonic close to the fundamental, perhaps a 3rd) and the secondary L/C another harmonic, maybe a 5th or 7th. A 7th overtone would place the final tank at about 210Khz with a driver at 30khz. Maybe the primary LC is not that critical and the final stage (secondary LC) of the air core transformer is the critical point.

Think about this, you construct the driver to deliver 6kv to 9kv via a spark gap, the critical thing is to generate 720V per wind on the primary to generate a 14400v on the secondary (20 winds per side), if this can generate about 500mA out we can run this thru a conventional Oil transformer (power company style that outputs 110/220VAC single phase) we can provide well over 100amps. Is that enough to run your house?

Current and voltage amplification.

didn't Sm state something about 35khz and 245Khz? these are related, 7th harmonic, hummm...
Regards,

Carl

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: starcruiser on February 18, 2010, 07:08:35 PM
I think the air core transformer would do better due to frequency. I would say do not worry about amps in since the conversion of the HV via a transformer will increase the current for us when voltage is down converted by the transformer action. Focus on the conversion.

I believe it has to do with magnetic resonance and standing waves in the conversion coils. A oil filled cap at the output can finish converting it for us I think by shifting the phase to sync the current.

What do you think?

With the Don smith version it appears the spark gap assists in the conversion and isolates the primary tank of the aircore transformer L/C. The spark gap is providing the kicks (smells of SM doesn't it?) The real trick I believe is the source frequency of the HV driver (30khz) matched to the primary tank L/C (some harmonic close to the fundamental, perhaps a 3rd) and the secondary L/C another harmonic, maybe a 5th or 7th. A 7th overtone would place the final tank at about 210Khz with a driver at 30khz. Maybe the primary LC is not that critical and the final stage (secondary LC) of the air core transformer is the critical point.

Think about this, you construct the driver to deliver 6kv to 9kv via a spark gap, the critical thing is to generate 720V per wind on the primary to generate a 14400v on the secondary (20 winds per side), if this can generate about 500mA out we can run this thru a conventional Oil transformer (power company style that outputs 110/220VAC single phase) we can provide well over 100amps. Is that enough to run your house?

Current and voltage amplification.

didn't Sm state something about 35khz and 245Khz? these are related, 7th harmonic, hummm...

Kapanadze´s secondary has LESS turns than the primary in the outdoor demonstration that is the basis for the replication as well. Look into the schematics. There is also no oil transformers visible.
You talk solely about Don Smith circuits.

Also to gain 10 times the amperage in the secondary while also nearly doubling the voltage would surely be in need of a further explanation, because that is what no-one can figure out how to realize EXACTLY succesfully except Kapanadze, the replicator and a few others.
But there is sure as many theories that have been discussed over and over on how that is done out there than there is fairy tales.

starcruiser

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on February 22, 2010, 09:05:55 PM
Kapanadze´s secondary has LESS turns than the primary in the outdoor demonstration that is the basis for the replication as well. Look into the schematics. There is also no oil transformers visible.
You talk solely about Don Smith circuits.

Also to gain 10 times the amperage in the secondary while also nearly doubling the voltage would surely be in need of a further explanation, because that is what no-one can figure out how to realize EXACTLY succesfully except Kapanadze, the replicator and a few others.
But there is sure as many theories that have been discussed over and over on how that is done out there than there is fairy tales.


The oil transformer I was speaking of was a final stage device.

In regards to Kapanadze´s design the transformer secondary having fewer turns than the primary is just stepping down the output. I believe there are several ways to accomplish the same thing. I am sure the harmonic content and resonance of the coils still plays a part.

Don smith and  Kapanadze´s creations are based on the same tech and concepts, Tesla. so both use the concepts from the magnetic amplifier design. The spark gap is part of the solution as I see it.

Power Factor Correction I also believe to be part of the solution. Adding capacitors to phase shift the current/voltage back in line. Do a bit of reading on PFC and VAR, it might help.

I am playing with this now so I shall see if there is any merit to the designs and concepts myself.
Regards,

Carl

dole

@all
I just wonder if someone can find clear picture of the drawing referred in the attached video picture,
and if someone can decode what this guy saying (no measurements so difficult to believe anything)

Ref: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvqH0-dum0A&feature=related

Thanks
d.