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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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xenomorphlabs

Smith is already pretty old. There is threads about him too.
Doubtful that he is up for discussion.
But you can read his documents, it´s all in there.
His devices are difficult to replicate, because you can impossibly get the required components on a hobbyist budget.
And if you don´t use the same components, you will see no results.
Apart from the fact that all his schematics are deliberately distorted, so only the principle can be understood (for financial reasons).
I´d say it´s more likely that you can build a working Kapanadze replication within a typical budget constraint.

baroutologos

One thing that it makes me personally to view this devices as Capacitative discharge enhancements rather resonantors is the fact (i have some experience on that) resonance with high capacitance and low inductunce is a poor one to make.

Comparing a resonantor of a 1uf cap and some 50-100uh coils is orders and orders of magnitude weaker than a traditional Tesla coil of a say 20mH inductunce and 50pF capacitance.

The above facts i ascertained them in trying replicating a Don Smith device. Xeno knows.
For disproving my words, I urge anyone to make a resonator of high power and constant resonance using low inductunce high capacitance ;)

EDIT:

Looking the original Kapanadze geo.avi video i am curious to understand how there is a large one-wire current between his device and ground. Clearly he has not any air-terminal capacity that is charged to high voltage to do that. Yet he does not seem his device to operate at very high frequency since the meters work (they do not work near an operating Tesla coil due to rf currents)

So? Perhaps he uses two grounds as the water piper-device-buried radiator so the circuit closes. I hardly can think any other plausible solution.

grizli

Quote from: baroutologos on March 24, 2010, 09:24:42 PM
@Grizly,

Instead of over-theorizing, go build Kacher and see yourself. ;)
I have built mainly two Kacher editions, from the diagram given to me by rutube user Destine and it is the very diagram the Administrator posted some posts ago (secondary' end go to transistor base)

I did some extensive experiments in primary voltage ranges (12-24-35v)

It indeed lights bulds using a solid ground very much, but it consumes a lot! Mine consumes (this tested with over a dozen transistors since i keep burning them from various reasons) some 40-100 watt.

Bringing a incadescence lamp to brightness is around 40-50% efficiency at mine setup that is the suggested setup (24awg-1000 turns secondary all same other part-specs)

I have been told also the Kacher takes same 25 watt input (mine take as low as that at 12-15 volt and good adjustment of the primary coil) but cannot light a incadescence lamp. Whoever has claimed that has not provided any proof. period.
...

IMO kapanadze device has little if any resemblence in principle of operation as the kacher or a pure Tesla coil.
I believe and I express my personal view that Kapanadze device does not even uses smooth resonance as the Kacher does, but somehow (assuming its true) amplifies capacitatives discharges over a network of coils.

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ps1: Imo this particular device (replication) should entail some resonance action, but from the visible components (1-2uf cap and air core coils) its resonance frequency goes well to Kilohertz range rather than 50-150 Hz for stealing the grid pursposes.

ps2: The original replication video removed

so you implay it is NOT OU ?  Destine claims he use 30W imput tu burn 100W bulb to full itensity !!

HOW BIG is your secondary .. Bigger secondary better results, whats your secondary size in length and width ?

Hmm no reason for me to waste money on kacher, if it is OU its hardly more than 200%

but all in all its has been used wrong way... instead of putting lamp directly near TC we need to build MANY identical recievery  and attach to each one filament bulb.. probably OU will be much higher..   I woild like to tray that but building at leat 3-5 idetnical big tesla coil secondaries requires much time and money... but will probably soon

All in all theory is only what we have about KApanadze. we dont have working shematics yet and buildintg from scratch can ony be succesfull by ACCIDENT if we do not understand whats going on !!

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: baroutologos on March 25, 2010, 03:57:01 AM
One thing that it makes me personally to view this devices as Capacitative discharge enhancements rather resonantors is the fact (i have some experience on that) resonance with high capacitance and low inductunce is a poor one to make.

Comparing a resonantor of a 1uf cap and some 50-100uh coils is orders and orders of magnitude weaker than a traditional Tesla coil of a say 20mH inductunce and 50pF capacitance.

The above facts i ascertained them in trying replicating a Don Smith device. Xeno knows.
For disproving my words, I urge anyone to make a resonator of high power and constant resonance using low inductunce high capacitance ;)

EDIT:

Looking the original Kapanadze geo.avi video i am curious to understand how there is a large one-wire current between his device and ground. Clearly he has not any air-terminal capacity that is charged to high voltage to do that. Yet he does not seem his device to operate at very high frequency since the meters work (they do not work near an operating Tesla coil due to rf currents)

So? Perhaps he uses two grounds as the water piper-device-buried radiator so the circuit closes. I hardly can think any other plausible solution.

The electron disturbance along the wire introduced by the dipole (big coil) is probably causing the ions in the wire to oscillate. It needs no closed loop to do that (antenna principle).

The radiator was used in the first test. In the second test the water pipe was connected. Most people think that there is only one ground and that the radiator is not connected in the later stage of the presentation.

In the aquarium experiment you can clearly hear the loud magnetostriction-related transformer hum, so there is an output transformer running at 50-200 Hz as a fundamental frequency with maybe overtones (that maybe are filtered).
Maybe he really managed to create TWO oscillatory circuits in the primary that are detuned in a way that the resulting frequency is 50-200 Hz at a high amperage ? That can be due possibly introduced by resonances in the waveguide (iron tube inside the coil).

grizli

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on March 24, 2010, 09:56:51 PM
Smith is already pretty old. There is threads about him too.
Doubtful that he is up for discussion.
But you can read his documents, it´s all in there.
His devices are difficult to replicate, because you can impossibly get the required components on a hobbyist budget.
And if you don´t use the same components, you will see no results.
Apart from the fact that all his schematics are deliberately distorted, so only the principle can be understood (for financial reasons).
I´d say it´s more likely that you can build a working Kapanadze replication within a typical budget constraint.

This claim is STUPID ( Smith claims special components required) he just wants to make money !!
CAPACITOR is capacitor diode is DIODE and wire is wire !!!!

Primary is 0,2uF = resonance not more than 300khz.. no NEED for special caps .. classic HV caps can work .. probably  chermaic HV or oil HV will work nicely !!!
DIODES you dont buy you make them using ultrafast 75nS 1A 1000V diode in series one costs 0,1$

but on youtube there is Smith video of device that woks, demonstration.. the same device has detailed photograph.. ALL whats in on build-plate you can SEE !!! nothing is hidden