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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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xenomorphlabs

If the Meyer device even worked.
Take a look at "Comments on the Meyer-Mace solid state energy converter, by Frederick C. Brown" on this website http://tesla3.com/free_websites/zpe_meyer_mace.html

And besides, if this only works at 21 MHz and produces 400 Hz output, then how is Kapanadze able to generate 50 Hz in his output coil if he at all uses this approach?

Trastos

Hi all,

I have finish build the Kapagen replica, actually working in a 14 bulbs load, but i tried the Kapagen replica with a various aparatus in load, i have a 3 good earth grounds, 2 tube's of copper rods under 3 meters in a very good terrain and one plate under water for the oven transformer.

First results, the output voltage is very high, not but constant, only positive current(not sure), and very high amperes, nothing new.

I read that the ground is the more critical parameter of the device, i agree.

I will post when will have the measurements of amps and voltage with a oscilloscope, i think that is the unic way for a correct measurement, multiplying two signals.

byes

gyulasun

Quote from: TheCell on July 05, 2010, 02:16:21 PM
I only have a few clues of the working principle.
1) That Magnifier thing that Tesla did in his Colorado Springs setup with this extra coil. This is mentioned in the attachment PracticalMagnifierConstructionPrinciples.pdf
...

Hi, 

This pdf you kindly uploaded refers to at least two Figures that are not included in the pdf.  Any idea where are they? Maybe in Richard Hull's book?

Thanks,  Gyula

vrand

Quote from: TheCell on July 05, 2010, 02:16:21 PM
I only have a few clues of the working principle.
1) That Magnifier thing that Tesla did in his Colorado Springs setup with this extra coil. This is mentioned in the attachment PracticalMagnifierConstructionPrinciples.pdf
More detail will be given in this book:
The Tesla Coil Builder's Guide to the Colorado Springs Notes of Nikola Tesla
(Richard Hull)
Anyone got that book ? a PM would be nice!
2) The Michel Meyer-Mace solid state energy converter
Attm. 2 :Fe56generator.pdf
Michel Meyer uses also a setup : a coil with a copper rod though the middle and the frequency 172753,867 Hz .
The copper rod through the middle of the coil / the use of ferrite core ; all this points to an effect : transmutation of Fe56 isotope to Fe54 isotope
(In case of ferrite core)
Ever heard of the future batteries which power the device a whole lifetime.
This is it.
And I assume that there are people in this forum who know how to do this , but prefer to keep silence . They are surely amused despite the many pointless posts here (Haha they will never get it) You are so sick!


I remember that Richard Willis (Magnacoaster) also pulses a coil positioned between 2 Magnets. In one of his open devices I see only little transformers.
Someone can confirm that the pulsing frequency he uses is 21 MHz?

If so all setups with ferrite cores make sense.

There is something special with the Magnacoaster design.  Now if they can just iron out the kinks on their production model.  :)

LtBolo

Long time lurker here...very rare poster. A few points to consider:

* Eric Dollard said in a 1987 interview that every single 'Free Energy' developer he knew was a complete fraud except one, and that one was not known to the public and wished to stay that way. I take that to mean that I should be very cautious in evaluating the claims of others. Dollard didn't have much good to say about Bearden or Bedini in his recent comments.

* In the same interview, Dollard also stated that free energy would not be found in normal electricity (TEM) which tends towards losses, but rather in dielectricity (LMD) which tends toward gains.

* In his document describing Oscillating Transformer (Tesla coil) design, he suggests that the transformer is actually converting electricity into dielectricity...a massless form of pure energy.

* Kapanadze states clearly that his design is pure Telsa. His 100kW device is clearly using well tuned Telsa coils.

* Don Smith talks ad naseum about his designs being Telsa technology.

* The WITTS spokesman claims that their devices are Tesla technology. WITTS? Why? Only because they claim to have demonstrated looped devices, with many testimonials in support thereof.

* There is no real proof that Naudin's design is anything more than a high voltage transformer. A MOT can easily put out the power and voltage evident in his output, without any additional conversion in the second stage.

* The WITTS spokesman claims that there is more than just electrons flowing in the wires, and their delay line motor uses a section of rubber hose as a conductor. It has a standing wave of dielectricity in it...touch the center and feel nothing, spread your fingers and you feel a charge. And yes, I have personally touched it. And yes, it is just a section of high pressure rubber tubing that I measured at megs per inch.

* Eric Dollard has pointed out that insulators conduct dielectricity, both in Telsa coil experiments and in his recent comments regarding MIT's disassembled Leyden jar demonstration.

* Bill Alek's Torsion Physics paper offers the suggestion that imaginary current (dielectricity, perhaps?) dissipates negative real power in resistance.

* Tesla suggested in Colorado Springs that at high frequency the DC resistance of light bulbs dropped...presenting a much lower load for the amount of light and heat that he was getting. It might have appeared that way, but I'm not convinced that frequency was the real reason.

* Tesla used the ground...dirt...to pass electricity? No, dielectricity.


So what does all that mean? It means our box is too small.


We keep thinking in terms of conventional electricity and this isn't it. While I do agree with many of Bolt's comments regarding the use of RF techniques, those are implementation details and offers no real explanation of where excess power enters the system. High frequency reactive power is inherently an RF problem, and RE is functionally RF...but...that isn't the explanation for excess power.

I suspect that the answer will end up being that reactive power generates large imaginary currents...which aren't really imaginary at all, but aren't electrons either...and imaginary currents can be generated at gains, rather than losses...after which a portion of the imaginary currents are dissipated as negative real losses...in other words, gains.

I suspect that a well-tuned Telsa coil generates almost pure imaginary power, and any resonant device with a high degree of reactive power generates significant amounts.

How do you measure it? How do you design around it? How do you harness it?

No clue, just food for thought and fodder for discussion. And no, I'm not trying to distract from Kapanadze...quite to the contrary...I'm trying to put together a big pile of observations into some form of theory that might explain Kapanadze. If somebody has a legitimate device...build it...but do so with the intention of understanding why it works. Barring that, we might get farther by working on a theory and then testing ideas, rather than random attempts at replications of unproven devices. It might be interesting to see how a very high Q 100 watt Telsa coil, impedance matched to a grounded load would behave. That's really all Tesla, Don Smith, and Kapanadze appear to be doing, and is really what Naudin is trying to do.

Somewhat unrelated, but possibly relevant, here's another bit of fodder for discussion:
If a single file line of electrons that is 1 coulomb long passes a single point in 1 second, how does that differ from a flat plain of 1 coulomb of electrons 1 electron thick passing the same spot in 1 second? They are both 1 amp, but one has measurable amounts of kinetic energy, while the other has virtually none.

Why care? Because our electronics math would not distinguish between the two, and yet they are clearly quite different. Pulsed DC, high voltages, spark gaps, strong dielectric fields...things Telsa used...would all tend to move charge quickly, whereas more conventional uses of electricity would tend not to. Does it matter? My intuition tells me yes.

In the end, our box is too small. Back to lurking...