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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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penno64

Another meaningful post from The Observer,

Penno

Yes ... by all means.

I believe few here understand what Magnetic Permeability is and how it works.

         Quite amazing that a piece of super-perma-alloy
                 could AMPLIFY the field of a coil
                                by 1,000,000 times !
                    Without using any extra current.

     The Field of a coil is...  B = (μ0 * μr * N * i) / l
     where μr is the Magnetic Permeability of the material within the solenoid.

     All others are constants for any given coil..
     
     Î¼0 =Permeability of Free Space
     N = number of turns
     i  = current
     l = length

If something is FerroMagnetic it is gunna have a MP in the thousands to millions. (1,000 --> 1,000,000)
ANY OTHER MATERIAL ( 99.9 percent of all materials ) is  ~ 1

A FerroMagnetic Material AMPLIFIES the Magnetic Field of a Coil many times without using any extra energy.


End of his post.

Hope this helps us along the road we are heading.

Regards, Penno

Coruscant

Usually the amplification is a trade off for frequency, although some newer amorphous core materials are still able to be used at a semi-high frequency.    The other affect he doesn't note is the heating of the core itself once you exceed the frequency rate that its willing to change at. 

The amplification of the magnetic field happens how?   

From the "observers" comments, he says that it amplifies the magnetic field without drawing any more current to do so. 

Magnetic permeability is the ability of a ferrous metal to draw in flux and become saturated by it.  Saturated means its full of flux and can't accept anymore.   

When you use a core, you aren't amplifying the magnetic field but ARE creating a better localized sync for flux to go to when the solenoid is powered.    For the same amount of magnetizing current used on an air core, you can put a ferrous core in there and get a stronger magnetic field as a result.   The strength of the field is due to how many lines of flux are developed thru the core of the solenoid coil.   If the core is air, then there is no matter there capable of accumulating flux at any denser volume than the air that is in the core.  Put something in the core that is capable of being magnetized and you have increased the ability of the volts/amps in the solenoid to be converted to the magnetic field and draw in more flux from the earths ambient fields.   (usually while at the same time reducing the frequency that the pulsations or oscillations can be run at in the coil doing the magnetizing.)

Thats my take on it.

Coruscant


Quote from: penno64 on November 04, 2010, 03:18:05 PM
Another meaningful post from The Observer,

Penno

Yes ... by all means.

I believe few here understand what Magnetic Permeability is and how it works.

         Quite amazing that a piece of super-perma-alloy
                 could AMPLIFY the field of a coil
                                by 1,000,000 times !
                    Without using any extra current.

     The Field of a coil is...  B = (μ0 * μr * N * i) / l
     where μr is the Magnetic Permeability of the material within the solenoid.

     All others are constants for any given coil..
     
     Î¼0 =Permeability of Free Space
     N = number of turns
     i  = current
     l = length

If something is FerroMagnetic it is gunna have a MP in the thousands to millions. (1,000 --> 1,000,000)
ANY OTHER MATERIAL ( 99.9 percent of all materials ) is  ~ 1

A FerroMagnetic Material AMPLIFIES the Magnetic Field of a Coil many times without using any extra energy.


End of his post.

Hope this helps us along the road we are heading.

Regards, Penno

LtBolo

Been pondering SR and Cosmo's stuff. I'm pretty sure it ain't hard, guys...

It is known that an electric field of sufficient intensity will alter the permeability of ferromagnetic materials. It is being used commercially to create tunable microwave resonators, among other things.

If you can wrap your head around that one piece of information, you have everything you need to build an SR type device.

* E fields cost very little to produce.
* E fields reduce permeability of ferrite.
* Reducing permeability will reduce inductance.
* Reducing inductance in a coil will increase the energy in the coil by 0.5*dL*I2.

Meaning: A high strength E field applied to the core of an inductor will cause the inductance to drop. When that field is applied at 2X the resonant frequency of a high Q LC resonator, the current in the LC will geometrically increase. It will only be limited by the magnetic saturation of the core, and although Cosmo said they couldn't get more than about 500W out, that seems very low for a properly designed high frequency system. Not sure what the relaxation time of the medium is, however, and that will define the highest operating frequency. Assuming just a few KHz at a few amps, you can make kilowatts.

I can tell you that it will be a nasty control problem, however. To keep the power stable you have to either remove exactly what is being produced (above a certain threshold), or you have to dynamically lower the Q of the resonator to keep it from running away. High speed closed loop control. Done right, it's magic. Not done right, it won't light at all or will run away.

Based on the above understanding, I would agree with Cosmo that Tiger's design was very close. I do think there are better ways, though, and there was nothing there to keep it stable, which I think was his complaint. I think SR was just using the non-linearity of the light bulb to keep it from running away, but I suspect that is a fairly narrow window. Too much resistance and it won't light. Not enough, and it get's ugly...fast...

ter

I have a Question:

can E-fields *affect* only ferrite core materials? how about powdered iron core?