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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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baroutologos

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It was not stated which signal generator was used. From the looks of it, a USB-based device.
Assuming an output impedance of about 50 ohm at an output voltage of let's say 10 Volt you would have a signal current of 200 mA.
It was stated that the current measured in series with the flyback primary was 0.025A (25mA).
A 5 Watt power consumption can only be with a voltage of 200 Volt across the flyback primary. (U=P/I).
Maybe there was a miscalculation?
So it looks like there is not much gain involved here in the transistor stage.
A Darlington with a hfe of 1000 would be overkill for this, would it not? What do you think?


Hello Xeno, it is always a pleasure for me to share any knowledge i posssess even though i do not see hot this contributes to the thread.

Anyway, the whole calcution series you make is quite logical but unpractical. e.g you can drive the darlighton pair with as much as 1 amp at power transistor's base, but if that particular inverter setup does not have any load, the overall current consumed could be as low as 0.025 Amps @ 200volts. plain and simple. Then the next question is if not expecting heavy amperage why darlighton? The answer could be why not? :P

In general, my small built inverters when idling, (with very low ohmage coil etc) require 1-3 watts to work.

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: baroutologos on October 24, 2011, 04:54:37 AM

Hello Xeno, it is always a pleasure for me to share any knowledge i posssess even though i do not see hot this contributes to the thread.

Anyway, the whole calcution series you make is quite logical but unpractical. e.g you can drive the darlighton pair with as much as 1 amp at power transistor's base, but if that particular inverter setup does not have any load, the overall current consumed could be as low as 0.025 Amps @ 200volts. plain and simple. Then the next question is if not expecting heavy amperage why darlighton? The answer could be why not? :P

In general, my small built inverters when idling, (with very low ohmage coil etc) require 1-3 watts to work.

Baroutologos, that's right in the ballpark (the 1-3 watts).
I have mainly built power inverters where the load is a factor actually,
so what you say makes sense in regards to the low ohmage coil.

You do contribute to the thread with this a lot. To replicate, people
need a working driver that delivers the right voltage and current to the flyback. ;)


Looked at stivep's last video again for the flyback measurements to get an idea
of the correct numbers and the values surprised me a bit.
He measures a turns ratio of 0.520 and even negative at resonance ...
It should be about 1/100 and less on a common flyback.
He did not measure the secondary inductance, so the actual turns ratio cannot be derived from the inductances.
It could from the resistances,
primary RDC= 148 mOhm = 0.148 Ohm
secondary RDC=10.833 Ohm

n^2= R1/R2

n=0.116884

That would mean if the primary had 20 turns, the secondary would have
171 turns.
I am not sure what exactly he has been measuring there, but
i carefully assume it was inadvertently not the high turn secondary.
Checked a flyback from a tiny TV i got lying around (maybe 6kV one) and it has a secondary DC resistance of 72 Ohm, so the russian 25kV flyback should have something in the several hundreds.
Except of course he measured a 1kV flyback there, but that is unlikely.
I was actually hoping to derive the optimal turns ratio of the 25kV flyback from the measurements.




energia9

Quote from: Jimboot on October 23, 2011, 11:58:41 PM
This is probably a dumb question but after reading the last 30 or so pages I'm not sure if I have to use a freq gen to power this up or not. Wesley's lastest vid is showing the freq gen but Tariel did not use one right? Or is this purely used for tuning?
Thanks guys.

you can use a freqency generator, those made in factory are quite stable and honest, for checking resonance set amplitude to 1 volts, and observe signals by oscilloscope,   
you can even work with the frequency generator as your source of signal if you want to drive your coil with this reliable source, you can amplify the signal with a mosfet or power npn. Use a proper amplifier circuit for the flyback. so there is less chance in damaging your equipment.


yeah where is Wesley and Arunas? 
can you peeps shout in.
peace

dllabarre

Quote from: baroutologos on October 24, 2011, 04:54:37 AM

Hello Xeno, it is always a pleasure for me to share any knowledge i posssess even though i do not see hot this contributes to the thread.

Anyway, the whole calcution series you make is quite logical but unpractical. e.g you can drive the darlighton pair with as much as 1 amp at power transistor's base, but if that particular inverter setup does not have any load, the overall current consumed could be as low as 0.025 Amps @ 200volts. plain and simple. Then the next question is if not expecting heavy amperage why darlighton? The answer could be why not? :P

In general, my small built inverters when idling, (with very low ohmage coil etc) require 1-3 watts to work.

Can you post a schematic and parts list of your signal driver?

Thanks
DonL

dllabarre

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on October 24, 2011, 06:15:00 AM
Baroutologos, that's right in the ballpark (the 1-3 watts).
I have mainly built power inverters where the load is a factor actually,
so what you say makes sense in regards to the low ohmage coil.

You do contribute to the thread with this a lot. To replicate, people
need a working driver that delivers the right voltage and current to the flyback. ;)

Can you post a schematic and parts list of your signal driver?

Just so people can see and compare diff drivers.


Thanks
DonL