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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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verpies

Quote from: stivep on November 30, 2011, 12:10:47 PM
I do not intend to fight with you Sir  nor  make you unhappy for any reason.
You not reading nor taking to consideration my  comments from today. Read  it.!! Please.

Neither do I.
I am not making any Ad Hominem remarks to you and I do not comment about anyone's intentions without being asked for it.

My arguments with you is purely technical and as a scientist you cannot take offense at it.

I take under consideration all of your technical comments and statements. So far none of your technical statements has even addressed my claim that your power estimates are invalid.

MY CLAIM:
"4W difference at the input of a power supply does not mean 4W difference at the output of a power supply."

The Tube device is not special in any way unless the output input power ratio is over unity or it is a self-runner.
Thus valid power measurements are due diligence for your claims.

P.S.
I don't watch TV.  Mind is a terrible thing to waste.

verpies

Quote from: jbignes5 on November 30, 2011, 12:26:12 PM
I thought the whole point in replication is to do it and not sit there and demand answers before doing it.

The purpose of replication is to verify the claims and engineering/theoretical basis of the invention.
But first, there has to be something worth replicating.

Lighting a 100W light bulb with 44W of electric power is not so.

stivep

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Quote from: verpies on November 30, 2011, 12:37:47 PM
The purpose of replication is to verify the claims and engineering/theoretical basis of the invention.
But first, there has to be something worth replicating.

Lighting a 100W light bulb with 44W of electric power is not so.



http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-60.html#post169385


look at post


Quote of T-1000:

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Originally Posted by T-1000
The self power is last step after you rebuild device. But it is primary target for those who do not want this technology in the wild...



You did not get a point how our setup works...
The flyback transformer see another transformer as capacitor. Not transformer, but capacitor!  Let's assume it as Tesla Coil.

The AV plug does the job for transformer action in Tesla Coil primary(or D.Smith/Kapanadze/other - does not matter, they're on same principle).

How AV plug works - because of capacitance loop action between 2 open ends of flyback secondary coil... And this is main rule for open circuit.
In the end of the process you get induction in secondary of Tesla Coil what does not affect source what powers flyback transformer!

Hopefully that explain some hard bits.



Quoteof Zilano
thanks for the info. wot i mean to make people understand here. separate means use cap. it also does same thing. wot u did.




1.cold electricity is not affected by load.

2. wot makes cold electricity?
answer is capacitor.


one more thing kapanadze uses caduceus as secondary coil and primary is just simple coil. tesla basics. he uses it as harvest coil(caduceus) and the wounding of coil is not done like smith(of caduceus fame like the way ur team has done) but the way i posted in one of my posts. with 25kv ur gonna have mega watts of power.[/font][/size]


but ur team has done a great work keep it up
dont take my words as dimnishing ur spirits but am giving u hint to get megawatts from 25kv

end of quote.

We are not being paid for immediate documentation of our work.
who ever is not satisfied  must respect time and work  required for any prove in  this area.
Others  just wait or verify  it by them self.
The form of  verification can not be  stated by me form Legal Point of  view.






Wesley

itsu


@ All,

after experimenting for severall weeks now with this "yoke" device, i have no real results to report (which in itself is a result).

Max. voltage on secondary bifilar coil was 500V, but this was not capable to light a bulb.

One of my FG stopped working (the cheap one) , probably because of the mutual transformer effect on the both input coils, so i am done for now with this device, but be carefull here.

I am busy for now with building a pair of buffer/amplifiers using TDA6111Q's to protect my FG in future projects.

Good luck all.   Regards Itsu

wattsup

Quote from: verpies on November 30, 2011, 05:49:01 AM
What is the voltage rating and capacity of that orange capacitor between the transistors? 
What technology is this capacitor made in?  MKP, Mylar?
At what frequency does the flyback driver run for you?

@verpies

Geez, you should change your @usename to @HawkEye or @PeregrineVision. Otherwise, whatever you ever do with your @usename, never change the V for an H. Just jokin around man.

Actually you are very right about the cap. So this morning on my way to the office I stopped off at the EE shop and got a few of the right one. Nice 0.68uF MKP style. I think I will remove the top part of the circuit and re-do it on a breadboard for now until this all works as planned.

Regarding power measurements, maybe we should stop bombarding the WNY group and give them some room to breath. Discussing about power measurements will always be an issue. Once we have one device working ourselves, we will be in a position to do most all of that so for now, let's just get the design working.

@stivep

Last night I sort of had a horrible thought but I think it is important or even the most important thing to take care of right now. What if the Flyback Transformer (FBT) the WNY group is now using burns up or gets an internal short for some reason or another. What happens to the only working device?

Also, since the WNY  group is the only one with a working device right now, it is even more important for them to try other FBTs on their known working unit to see if this can work with others. Technically speaking, about R&D or replication efforts, it would be more logical to have the WNY group test a good number of FBTs on their working system to determine if this can be done with any other flyback, Those that do not work can be identified and at least others would not waste time with them. For every hour you guys can put to this question of other FBTs, you will be saving others 1000s of hours of potentially useless time and effort.

As I had mentioned, I am in a constant state of trying to reconcile all the variables. Now when you look at the diagram @T-1000 made a few weeks ago where he shows the pulse circuit, the flyback transformer and the output stage, we can see that the flyback has no internal diode but that's not all. In the diagram, we see three coils in the FBT, the primary, a multi tap secondary (MTS) and the HV output. He shows that the negative of the HV is going one end of the MTS and the other end of the MTS goes to the center tap of the output bucking coil (OBC). He also shows a capacitor that is tapped into the MTS that is probably acting like an internal energy pump. Now if all these factors are required so the FBT can produce the right type of HV output to the CC, then we are all in deep trouble from the start. This is why it is of the utmost importance to see if the WNY group can successfully get another FBT to work, and hopefully an FBT that is widely available on the markets.

If none of the above is possible, then I have one major question about the FBT they are using.

Question: The negative of the HV is going to the MTS how? Is it hardwired inside the FBT or does it have a separate negative HV pin that they just connected to the MTS. This is very very important know as in order to reconcile all these difference, this is a major point to consider since we will be left with trying to cheat the with the available FBT windings to both create the MTS and the small capacitor across one of its winding sections.

Now I do not mean that because we do not know this, I will cross my arms and wait until we do. Not the least bit will I wait, but I think that if the WNY group needs a priority to accomplish at this stage, it is to find another FBT. Both for our sakes as well as your sake if that only one should blow. Now if this is a good plan, I am sure myself and others would not mind sending a few flybacks to the WNY guys if they have a generic address to send it to. What I mean is I am willing to put up some dollars to help answer this question from their end because at least they have the working set-up to know right away, whereas, with our build, if something does not work, it could be due to the FBT or many other issues. Please think about this.

wattsup