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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Kator01

Hey Observer,

I jump in here just one time because of a lack of time:

You are absolutly correct about the fact that ferromegnetic materials are magentic field amplifiers.
this has to do with "sponataneous magnetisation".
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Spontaneous_magnetization
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html
There are areas or better domains with already aligned
molecular magnets which contain a lot of energy  however the total system is neutral on the macroscopic scale.
In an old german physic-book dated 1940 the value of the fieldstrength hidden within the weiss-areas is given:

H = 1.5 x 10 exp 7 Oersted ( Aw/cm ) !!!

This is a fieldstrenght way beyond what can be produced  technically and can be calculated by the amount of thermal energy needed ( Curie-Temp) to cleaar the ferro-material from any spontaneous magnetisation domains.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html
The number given above is true for pure iron.
Now the reason why you can not extract this energy is the simple fact that only the amount of energy to allign this "long range order" is given back to the experimenter and not the bound energy of the molecular magnets.
Upon shutting of the current in a coil the magnetic domains fall back to their previous exisiting entropy - no energy gain unfortunately. Otherwise - if spontaneous magnetisation-energy is tapped - the core would cool down extremly because it is forced to regain its equilibrium state ( regaining spontaneous magnetisation) - a condition which is a specific quality of ferromagnetic-materials.

The only way I see in which to extract more from this "sea of energy" which definity exists, is to use the magnetic-amplifier technique of pre-magnetisation a core with a high impedance-coil ( many windings i.e. 800 windings on an iron-core for example or attaching a permanent magnet) using a pure dc-current and then use the aligned domain-structure by superposition of ac-oscillation or by applying sudden pulses.

best
Kator01

Quote from: The Observer on December 02, 2011, 07:48:41 AM
Verpies,

Thankyou for your time here.
It is obvious that you are a sharp knowledgeable individual.
That is why I would appreciate an honest discussion of my concerns.

What are my concerns?...
                                  They are    1. Magnetic Permeability   and     2. Resonance.

   In this post I shall address

1. Magnetic Permeability... a number that reflects the Density and Intensity of magnetic dipoles in a substance (powered by free electron spin.)
                                             
                                                                       Formula for a Magnetic Field inside a Coil.

                                                            B = (μ0 * μr * N * i) / l    -->    B =   Î¼r * (μ0 * N * i) / l
                                                    - μ0, N, i and L are constants for any given coil with a constant current.
                                                   - μr is the Magnetic Permeability of the material within the solenoid.
                                                   - (99.9 % of all substances have a  μr ~ 1,      Ferros have a μr  ~ 500 to 1 Million)

                            * A Ferromagnetic Substance can Amplify the Magnetic Field of a Coil by 1,000,000 times... no extra current needed !

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So here are my questions for you, if you would be so kind to answer. (anyone else is welcome to jump in here also)

     1. When wrapping wire around a piece of ferrite, would it be wise to address the formula mentioned above when trying to understand what is happening ?

     2. Where does the extra magnetic field come from?

     3. Could one construct a speaker that does not use ferrite or a magnet?

         a. If so, then compare the energy it would need to produce the same sound from a similar ferrite/magnet constructed speaker?
         b. Given that the energy is different, why?

     4. In a conventional speaker, that has 3 exchangeable magnets of differing strength... Weak.. Medium.. and Strong,
         describe the intensity of sound from the same signal as you exchange the magnets.

         a. If different intensities... why?
         b. Where does the extra energy come from?

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Obviously, I feel these are important questions.
Thank you so much for any input you can offer. ;)

Best Regards,
                     The Observer

stivep


Please read my  long post in above "in RED" again I  have made edition to it
of importance.
Please  try to read  "in between the words !!!!!"


Wesley

tagor

Quote from: ramset on December 01, 2011, 09:07:54 PM
There is a French patent application number FR2680613 dated 19th August 1991 entitled “Activateur pour Mutation Isotopique” which provides some very interesting information. The system described is a selfcontained solid-state energy converter which abstracts large amounts of energy from an ordinary iron bar.


http://www.overunity.com/4333/meyer-mace-isotopic-nmr-generator/

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on: 22 March 2008, 22:59:16 »QuoteI'm impressed by simple effective devices, and the FR2680613 patent from Michael Meyer and Yves Mace could be a fine example of simplicity, if it works. This patent has been noted once before in the Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler thread. My main interest is in replicating the Barbat patent, but couldn't resist looking at this one as it also uses three coils to produce an effect 
This should be a good replication project for those without years of knowledge and experience and access to $s and $s of equipment.
Generator of energy by resonant nuclear ferromagnetism, consisting of a "U"-shaped chassis made of mild steel containing a cylindrical bar made of ferromagnetic fuel rod on which at least 3 induction coils act. The first coil is an electromagnet, the second is a nuclear magnetic resonance actuator, the third recovering the induction energy present in the bar. Device intended particularly to supply commercially exploitable electrical energy.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/mmcgen.htm
http://l2.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=FR2680613&F=0&QPN=FR2680613
http://freenrg.info/TESLA/Tesla_Switch/D3.pdf page 45-46


http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/mmcgen.htm

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on 26 Feb 1993 â€" The Michel Meyer-Mace solid state energy converter from the Patent # FR9110472 and FR2680613. This patented generator is a solid-state ...


wattsup

@stivep

I am trying to read between the words but all I see are spaces. lol
Good job. Thanks.

@all

I just purchased two of these FBTs. Now this should be big enough to handle the pulses while not having to raise the voltage on the primary to its maximum.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/320804120160?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Also, is there anyone that can go to the website I requested in my previous post and try to get that file on the TBC-100 flyback that is used by the WNY Group. If the site requires payment, I don't mind sending a paypal to cover it but I just can't understand the language.

I will look for a more standard FBT as well, but when I saw these two big FBTs, I could not resist. lol

wattsup

jbignes5

 I Found a source for the Bessemer steel. Maybe someone who is interested might want to give them a shout and see where they get it from. Maybe someone could save some stock or scrap and ship it out for cost... It's extremely cheap to make.


http://www.bekaert.com/en/Product%20Catalog/Products/B/brush%20wires%20%20bessemer%20%20%20polishing%20%20%20loca%20stainless.aspx


The bristles are made of it!

Making a ring should be done in this method: Two straight pieces bent into half circles. This way the channel itself gets bent. This is the method my iron guy did for me. I need To get the coils made and since the circle is split this means I can use forms to hold the wires. This can be done all the way down to each wire being perfectly apart. For now I Am gonna try winding on a sleeve of hard plastic. I still have not decided on the wire sizes yet but I know the high voltage should be very fine wire but multi-stranded for the field and the generator wire should be solid core and thick for the generator and thin for the exciter.

It is important to use multi stranded for the field emitter and solid core for the generator. The only exception is the exciter field coils which should be solid coil. This presents an inductive diode that is reactive to the generator fields. Tesla said he timed the drop outs at the peak of the ac signal. Drop outs being shorting the generator coils of one channel. One on and the other off. He then redirects the induced pulse into the load. Via the unshorted generator coils or something like that. I'm still pouring through the various articles in the magazines to see his ideas of this process.