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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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Paul-R

Quote from: jbignes5 on December 22, 2011, 12:51:00 PM
You won't get there using the caps you are using. They need to be condensers and oil filled.
Are you sure that he wasn't simply  using the best techniques of the time? Capacitor
technology has developed immensely since he died.

jbignes5

Quote from: Paul-R on December 22, 2011, 01:07:05 PM
Are you sure that he wasn't simply  using the best techniques of the time? Capacitor
technology has developed immensely since he died.


No I believe at the time those were the best caps ever. They had a mobile gasless dieletric protecting the plates. If it did break down it would only seal it up and continue due to it's fluidic nature.


Better oils would be a significant increase in dielectric ability and that would be an avenue of discovery as well as better materials for the condensers! But the overall construction they used back then over modern times capacitors would be superior to anything we have now. Remember we are tricked away from the things that work. If we tried to do this stuff with current available parts this stuff will never work. It was designed by Tesla to work to the best of it's abilities included. This is why they leave this information out there. No one will be able to replicate it with the junk they are pushing on us.

Transistors and new capacitors are what keeps them into the commodity business. Every new and improved device we use takes us further from the true ability to replicate this stuff. The approach now is to make device use less but make us want more and more devices. In effect even though technology is more efficient it will always have leaks and resistances. Items get cheaper and since we think we are saving power we are not. We actually use more power because we leave things on and running. Hey why not it uses less power right? We are not saving anything and the energy usage in our cities are rising. This is because we are still growing. We have not curtailed the population and we are outgrowing our resources.

When is it time to really sit down and learn about our environment? Even though there have been a great many Men who have tried to open our eyes we still clinging to our deceptions and hidden truths. Humanity at some point was very very acute. They knew things that they couldn't have possibly knew but yet did. A lot of the old written texts tell of these gods that came from the heavens and taught them to organize and learn about their environment. They gave then information and a way to communicate and record their discoveries.

The point is we knew more back then. Maybe to much and the war side of us prevailed as it is now doing. If we don't listen to our past how can we go forward? You want to know about this stuff then go to the old guys! No one was telling them to stop or say hey that can't work. We there was, mostly they won. Tesla is case in point. A Great man squashed by the corporate Elite. Way to go Humanity... Lets fix this ok. Read everything you can about Tesla.. It's what I do.. Go through his steps and learn the way he did. It's all written out for you. Hopefully someone will hit it.

Romero and others have only seen the tip of the iceburg....

znel

Quote from: jbignes5 on December 22, 2011, 12:51:00 PM


You won't get there using the caps you are using. They need to be condensers and oil filled.
[size=78%] [/size][size=78%]http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-464,667-electrical-condenser[/size]


Improved version:
[size=78%]http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-567,818-electrical-condenser[/size]


I told you Tesla worked out how to shield the wires:
[size=78%]http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-514,167-electrical-conductor[/size]




Oh look the very device we are talking about:
[size=78%]http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-568,177-apparatus-for-producing-ozone[/size]
[size=78%]This one references other patents and says this can be used elsewhere as well.[/size]


Or these:
[size=78%]http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-568,178-regulating-high-frequency-currents[/size]
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-568,179-producing-high-frequency-currents


This one uses a bifilar coil as the receiver (center tapped):
http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-593,138-electrical-transformer






And one more for giggles: This is the best one... :


http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-685,012-increasing-electrical-oscillations

Your making assumptions that I'm not using oil filled caps and that I haven't already worked with the patents provided with the exception of the "giggles" insert as I have no need to build a coil at sub 0 temps that would be of practical use in a home. 

Have you replicated any of the patent's you presented?   I mean no disrespect, sir, but anyone can pull files from the net and present them as fact.   Understanding the challenges and complications through experimentation is the only way one will achieve the knowledge needed to succeed.

jbignes5

Quote from: znel on December 22, 2011, 01:54:20 PM
Your making assumptions that I'm not using oil filled caps and that I haven't already worked with the patents provided with the exception of the "giggles" insert as I have no need to build a coil at sub 0 temps that would be of practical use in a home. 

Have you replicated any of the patent's you presented?   I mean no disrespect, sir, but anyone can pull files from the net and present them as fact.   Understanding the challenges and complications through experimentation is the only way one will achieve the knowledge needed to succeed.


I do my experiments. I prove it to myself. I didn't assume anything about your build and am not attacking it. What I'm saying is that the caps we use today are a mere shadow of what they were. I whole heartily agree that you can only learn by doing. And that is what I am doing. I don't just grab patents off the internet and say hey it works. But you have to agree with me here on this one point. Has there been a patent that Tesla got that didn't work the way it was stated? Ever?


The coil experiment I am gonna do now (for giggles). I don't believe the coil needs to be cooled if you reduce the resistance through silver plating and parallel coils! Each coil will effectively reduce the resistance to half right? Using a Bifilar wound coil should also increase the effect. If we could get to the same place Tesla was at with cooling and not use cooling then we can have all that amplified force for free then right? I'm thinking the Kacher is just a free oscillator. Couple to that with a coil like Tesla mentions and now we have something to look at. Read the text and get into the head of Tesla. He is pretty clear about the ramifications.

Let me ask this and some have agreed with me already. If this is a fluid like substance shouldn't it obey the same laws as a fluid?

http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-1,061,142-fluid-propulsion

Can't this be applied to this fluidic energy?

From this patent he states "It will be understood that the principles of construction and operation above set forth, are capable of embodiment in machines of the (***most widely different forms***), and adapted for the (***greatest variety of purposes***). In the above, I have sought to describe and explain only the general and typical applications of the principle which I believe I am the first to realize and turn to useful account."

This was merely the basics of his discovered principles. The foundation that he proved with the device he made. I suspect this was only the physical form that obeyed the same laws as he predicted for the new area of energy he was playing with.

I believe a Kacher is merely a channel that we can induce flow through. Pulse the big coil and it will put up more field lines and the better the feed back is. Merely having the coil up should generate a steady voltage if one end is wicked high off the ground. It will augment the highest standing voltage that way and orient the coil to start flowing. What they are doing is putting a transistor to interrupt this flow and it will suck in all the flow very quickly in response. Switching the bifilar into receive mode to the load would be the best way to get full power mode. Maybe using the bifilar as a pulse coil then switch to the load to get the response + usage(load).

That seems to be my next experiment as well on the Kacher end.

Lastly from the Giggles patent, this one statement brings great revelations "Now I have discovered that when a circuit adapted to vibrate freely is maintained at a low temperature(or resistance(**Added my comment)) the oscillations excited in the same are to an extraordinary degree (***magnified and prolonged***), and I am thus enabled to produce many valuable results which have heretofore been wholly impracticable."
He explains about how heat is related to the resistance of the wires. Lower the heat or resistance further and you can have more coil to raise the potential difference. A very simple example. The force becomes stronger and more forceful. We need to start looking at the real resistance of the coils we use. This is the key to stable operation of these devices as well. We don't need tremendous voltages to do this either. It should be a fundamental rule of thumb just on a lesser scale. It should still net us more in. Once produced it can be controlled via the normal methods and output what we like in a looped way, once kick started.

ronotte

I am continuing my Delamorto Kacher replication. Finally succeeded in obtaining a ground referenced DC voltage. Practically I used a small air-core step down transformer (10:1) and obtained 10V on a 100 Ohm resistor so about 1W...far from any possibility to recharge the battery (considering that I draw fro a 24V battery about 0.7- 1A)...but this first test has been done without any further optimization. I am using 3 turns for both coils and 300turns for the magnifier coil.
I tried as well to connect an aluminum Top-Hat on the magnifier coil: result is that the output voltage still the same (about 200Vpp @1.6MHz) but the blue streamers on top wire of course vanished.
Roberto