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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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cheappower2012

I want to clarify something,so nobody gets confused,Wattsup
said that the objects in the 2004 video were the heat sinks in the greenbox video
hes correct.I included a picture,showing this.He said that all the components
from the the 2004 video were put in the greenbox,partly correct.
The transformer with the bridge rectifier existed before the greenbox video its shown
in the 2004 video,the output
is ac not dc as I thought,he had it under the table in the video.
The heat sinks only have 2 wires not 3,as pointed out by Wattsup,conventional wisdom might
say that the purpose of the 2 transistor's are to drive a flyback for generating a spark,however that's incorrect.
There purpose must be important to the operation because in the greenbox video they turn off the
device because the transistors overheat.One suggestion was that the transistors are used as a rectifiers,
the bottom of the transistors has glue or rtv sealent hiding other components.
Another thing the size of the spark,everybody is going to flybacks generating massive sparks,
there not like hes setup,its a tiny spark.I built a setup using a microwave transformer,and other parts,interesting
however that's not going to work,next I'm used a modified 9 inch TV,modified put into a small box,
battery operated,and homemade hv capacitors,the TV is used,so ts reliable,fired thru a spark plug.
The intensity of this field is enough to lock my camera up if I get too close.A bigger spark is not better,
the size of TK's
spark on hes units is small.In the past Jack Durban that worked with SM of the TPU,said of SM,
if he wanted you to know how to build a tpu he would simply tell you,he knows exactly
how to do it.This same statement applies to the inventor of this device,hes not going to tell you ever how to build it.
my guess is he will take the secret of how to build it to hes grave as will SM.
The builds that are going on do not resemble hes device so can't work,no offence intended,hes devices do not use vacuum tubes,as one build uses one.
I think it resembles a Tesla setup but is not from Tesla,if this is true then thinking in terms of wave lengths will not apply,and tuning will not work,
some  parts are from Tesla not all are,TK is a tricky
guy the same as SM is,hes not going to give you anything ever and will send you on wild goose chases.Until someone can answer
what the function of the two transistors,each using only two leads is ,its critical as he stops the demonstration in the Green box video
because they over heat ,your going to go around in circles,seen this happen in the tpu threads,if not built
as to how the inventor built it,it can't be checked,will not work.In the transparent box video he adds a lot of circuit boards,looks to  me to fake you out
he turns it off after a short time,may have had also a heat problem.In the 2004 video he used the same transistors as in the later green box video
but didn't run the device long enough for it to heat up.We can conclude that the output of this device in all cases is 50Hz/60Hz ac,220vac
however what is unknown is the wattage of the light bulbs,I'm not sure on bulb wattages,as I live in the US, we use 120 vac
800 to 1000 watts seems abnormal to me,anyone have a link to such bulbs.

ronotte

Hi gyulasun,
I'm happy you show interest in such device, it is really a pity I've not searched for your cooperation at the time. Anyway my best effort has been with EB Gunn like circuit, I tried in every possible way to obtain a selfrunner and believe me I have been very, very near to it :'(  With reference to schematic I posted I should add that main problem has been the freq deviation in function of rectified output voltage. It happens that CMOS oscillator not good as too sensitive (to applied supply)....so, easy to go outside varactor's resonance and hence no freq conversion. Solution? easy, just use a micropower XTAL single fet oscillator: it does perform really much better and also has a wider supply range acceptance. Finally I automated also the switching between the pump Wavetek oscillator and  breadboard XTAL oscillator...unfortunately a single glitch is enough to disrupt the varactor's freq effect. I'm still convinced there could be still enough ground to work on.
About pump oscillator I verified many times the absolute necessity to use a perfect 50% duty cycle, going even 10% outside the circuit stop operation or the down conversion (in my case) shows steep decreasing efficiency.
About coils I always used 5cm diameter (card board support) : so only air coil. I obtained up to 60Vpp into the pickup coil for open circuit but probably as I wound the pickup coil itself just over the main tank coil at his center (in order to optimize for both voltage and current) I used a too high coupling with adverse effect...even if I saw that said 60V decreased drastically to 5 -6V when connecting the load (rect bridge, FET oscillator, etc). To note that even under load condition, in my case it did not change the proper tuning :)
With reference to posted schematic I add the waveforms at various labelled test points.
Roberto

gyulasun

Quote from: T-1000 on March 23, 2012, 08:49:34 PM
The negative resistance/negativie capacity(happens on capacitor in its natural resonance) is your power kicking back after you fed it in. And it is primary target to handle properly for at least unity devices. Also the inertia/reactive power/BEMF/(you name it) is tricky for feeding it back into system because it has always collapsing magnetic field and different properties from electricity you usually use.  But this is #1 thing to get under control and usage before you go into OU device design. :)

Hopefully that clears some mud from the field...

Hi T-1000,

It would clear some mud indeed if you were so kind and show electric circuits that include negative resistance (device) and it kicks back when I feed in input.  And when you show such schematic, some words of explanation surely would help too.

Thanks,  Gyula


gyulasun

 Hi Roberto,
Thanks for the further details on this interesting circuit. Would like to make some further insigth.
Trying to estimate the pump input energy your circuit needs,  let’s say your average voltage input (waveform D) is around 6V (12Vpp) and let’s say your average input current (waveform G) is around 1.5 - 2mA (8mApp) so to maintain the loaded oscillations in L1-L2 tanks you need about  9-10mW input power  (rough and rigorous estimation of course).  This is what roughly the xtal oscillator as its output power  should produce instead of the Wavetek gen and the xtal oscillator is to be fed from the tank circuit of course.  It was a very good idea to use xtal oscillator to get rid of the supply voltage dependent frequency stability of  CMOS RC oscillators and reduce the self-consumption of the oscillator itself. Here I would refer to an also micropower xtal oscillator with bipolar transistor, maybe its idle current consumption is lower than that of the FET oscillator, this way convertion efficiency may improve, see this link:  http://discovercircuits.com/DJ-Circuits/gatextl.htm   (the Gate Control Function with the CMOS buffer may be omitted of course and supply voltage can be towards the 5-10V range what the rectifier diodes give, instead of the suggested 3V.)
I understand the definite need for the 50% duty cycle the pump oscillator should produce, sorry for my suggestion on lower duty cycle, my thought was to reduce the ON time for the CMOS RC oscillator, to reduce its power consumption.
Regarding the 5cm OD coils, it is ok but perhaps the coupling coil L3 could be made on a separate card board support of an OD=5.1cm and you could adjust the coupling of L3 to L1 by sliding L3 over L1, maybe a more optimal position could be found, meaning less load on the tank.  This variable coupling could not be made in case of ferrite pot cores, the solution in that case is to use a multitap coupling coil. 
The forward voltage loss of the diode bridge can be reduced not only by 4 Ge diodes but by using a full wave voltage doubler which needs only two diodes instead of 4, and if these two diodes are Ge types, you may gain (for free) about 1.2 to 1.3V in voltage across the 200uF puffer cap versus the 4 diode bridge. (OF course the voltage doubler in itself is not a power multiplier.)  See this link which doubler I mean: http://www.play-hookey.com/ac_theory/ps_v_multipliers.html
It would be interesting to learn whether you changed the negative bias voltage up and down from its 10V value as shown or you found it as optimum at 10V for the varicap diodes?  (This 10V source was loaded by the reverse current of the varicap diodes, meaning only a maximum of some 100 nanoAmper load all the time.)  Also I would be curious on the DC resistance of L1 and L2 coils.

Your kind and detailed report on this circuit, perhaps combined with my humble suggestions, could inspire some further interest towards achieving a selfrunner at some mW power level. One would ask what usefulness has a mW power circuit? and the answer is: enormous if it selfruns...   ;)
rgds,  Gyula