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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Shokac

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on June 14, 2012, 06:10:29 PM
So as it seems I have wrong cube.

My current secondary coil (bifilar) resonates at approx. 2.4MHz (see screenshot of oscilloscope). To get resonance with spark gap I need high voltage with 2.4MHz (in my understanding). But unfortunately my spark goes off when I go beyond 250KHz.

Hence, any Ideas how to act further?


Regards

Use one of this.

Teslův transformátor (TC, tesla coil)  http://danyk.wz.cz/

Shokac

...With a large secondary capacitor, there will be more electrons in the bottle for a given energy...

http://home.freeuk.net/dunckx/wireless/scotty/scotty.html

Regards!

verpies

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on June 14, 2012, 06:10:29 PM
My current secondary coil (bifilar) resonates at approx. 2.4MHz (see screenshot of oscilloscope). To get resonance with spark gap I need high voltage with 2.4MHz (in my understanding). But unfortunately my spark goes off when I go beyond 250KHz.

Hence, any Ideas how to act further?
It's enough if you hit your secondary bifilar coil at every 10th zero-crossing of its natural ringing waveform, e.g. at 240kHz.
A bipolar pumping of the oscillating coil must happen at the zero-crossing its natural bipolar ringing waveform and this means exact frequency synthesis or phase synchronization using e.g.: Window Comparators.
The phase method exhibits automatic frequency tuning.

The secondary bifilar coil can also be hit with a unipolar positive pulse from a spark gap when the natural bipolar ringing waveform is at its negative peak (e.g. every 10th peak).  This also means phase synchronization but is simpler to accomplish because only one voltage comparator is needed.
The phase method also exhibits automatic frequency tuning.

The spark gap's falling slew rate can be increased through magnetic quenching.
A cheap CB Linear Amplifier can also be a powerful source of fast pulses.  It's good up to 27MHz.

P.S.
A spark gap can also act as a voltage comparator when its breakdown voltage is adjusted to be equal to the negative peak of the naturally oscillating waveform of the coil you are trying to resonate.  This method is imprecise and prone to premature firing because the ringing amplitude is decaying, hence this method is unstable.
It can be improved with a dead-time monostable circuit that prevents the firing of the spark-gap more frequently than e.g.: 235kHz.

jbignes5

 Pretty good stuff Verpies.

One note on the spark gaps electrode shapes. Can shape modify the direction of flow as well? Going from round to pointed might show something interesting.

That link had some good stuff there. Like this:


"It seems likely that a combination of these effects is responsible for partial rectification of the excitation applied to spark discharge driven Tesla coils, and that the difference in ground connection from one coil to another is responsible for the variable reports of net dc polarisation of Tesla coils. The exact nature of the ground connection, where the metal meets the soil, will vary tremendously with geology and moisture content and will be very different from one location to another. If this is the true explanation, then it would be expected that the coils showing this effect would also show a significant second harmonic component, since this is to be predicted by Fourier transform theory if rectification is occurring. Interestingly, whilst these polarisation effects have been reported with "quarter wave" coils, they are apparently absent from "half wave" coils.[/font][/size]Whether or not this be the case, it may also prove possible to introduce and control a deliberate net dc offset by installing e.g. a thyratron in the earth lead, by means of which proportional control of the resulting unidirectional pulsed charging current could be effected by the usual means applied to dimmer switches and the like."

The Magamp!

I was thinking that we could use the basket weave for the bifilar inner coil.. A weave like this but with two wires: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1EoFg7dy4A

Lets do an experiment and relate the power of the ground loop. Ed Leedskalnin. Ring any bells? PMH? When the ground loop is inductive based it is incredible the power that gets looped. In the case of the inductive loop I think it only separates out the positive and negative through magnetic alignment then forms a magnetic latch that loops onto itself at the place of joining. As long as the coils stay put the lock will continue and hold by the difference that was created by the power added. So the loop powers the whole shebang after the initial forming of the fields.


Also I wanted to touch again on the megnetising of the gaps. This is to cross polarize the spark. This breaks up the line formed by the discharge into smaller packets of charge. Kinda like this. ------------------------------------------- <Regular discharge: polarized discharge> |/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|. Although the latter should be more compressed or smaller packaged then what I can show with these crude graphics. So the first line shorts then instantly turns to the polarized version this does two very important things. It accelerates the line by contracting the line via conservation of charge rules or even condensing rules. It also increases the frequency of the now compacted line. This can be likened to the old symbol of an electric break down. Z, except turn that on it's side. The zig zag formation is because lines can not just separate. It seems to me that this process injects cross polarized lines into the spark and this is the one that creates the zig zag. The magnets are already flowing as is and just pulls what it needs for balance from the environment, which it does already. So it turns out we can silently pull more lines into our process and increase the response received back in a passive way via conditioning(cross polarizing) the spark gap.

In the Kapanadze system He gets around the spark issue and just uses it as a safety buildup device to the ground. This is to allow for his tank circuit to build up steam then dump at the rated gap setting. The gaps are a variable setting in a sense of accuracy. So this will always be hard to stabilize. This is why he used it in the exciter coil setup to ground as well. This energizes the ground and sucks the current up into each leg of the bifilar to grounds. Each ground has a preset value based on the exciter voltage and internal solenoid coil with flap voltage. Each one of those is on a separate ground that is excited from opposite ends. The added polarization of the solenoid pulls the ground in one direction because the bifilar crosses the grounds through the solenoid coil's interior. The solenoid coil is the polarizer and the grounds are going in certain directions trough the solenoid coils. The grounds will form an inductive ground loop based from the two different values that each ground has. Once charged up it could run absolutely free based solely on load requirements. Does it have limits.. Well of course but that is based on the value given to each coil. Composition and gauge plus geometry are all factors. Just remember that to intensify you must condense the lines or constrict them.

We are working with the inductive fields here and reflection, polarization and focus are all relevant variables as well. Learn how to reflect in the right manner and we have a laser like excitation for free. Well except for the initial blast to start the process. But then we could put a kickstart button on the engine or just never shut it off. It will be a steady state engine then that has a max draw but no minimum.

Using virtual grounds will allow us to tailor the energy as well in the loop. Shape and gain of the antennas will dictate how much one can safely use the virtual grounds with a common energizer ground. Each ground will have a value set to it and the flow will ebb back and forth between the two polarizing grounds. Yes we might have to separate the two polarities into two antennas the base antenna will broadcast the energizing wave and the two smaller polarized antennas will each receive the current it needs automatically from the loops that form. Obviously virtual grounds will have a limit based on the breakdown of the air around each antenna but maybe separating the polarized antennas will help to reduce the loops ionizing side effect. Maybe having them together will create more dynamic interaction of each stream and the direction each is flowing. More experimenting is needed in this area once we get the steady state supply running optimally.

I think Gray was also trying the tri-element approach. He was literally separating the polarities that way. then devised a way to harness the focuses flows into coils through a discharge to the virtual ground in the center of the rotor. Each terminal will be compared to another and divides accordingly via static induction rules. You could think of it as two drains being forced to flow in one direction or polarity. A loop will form from that flow and start to rev up. How we back tap that loop is the issue. My thoughts are to just induce the heavy radiations off of the loop itself. You could think of it as a choke really and is wholly the reason it doesn't get out of control. With non resonant coupling being the choke or depletion mode we could control the interaction via resonance non resonance adjustment. This could be a very passive thing with a coil and capacitor or just pancake bifilar coils set to reflect inwards. We could also make the pancakes square could we not and bend them around the outside of the main coils as reflectors? What about hexagons or other geometric shapes? What about conical bifilars?

There are plenty of directions we need to be focusing. We have plenty of guys here that can help with that. We have a lot to learn and catch up to the ones who have had this the whole time.

jbignes5

 I was going to add to the other post but it is kinda getting long.


A long time ago I paid 15 dollars to have the story of the kid who discovered the electric rocket. It so captavated me because as a child I wanted to build a fantastic personal flying machine. The story goes like this:


There was a boy who was interested in Telsa's discoveries. He read up on a lot of Tesla and made his circuits but he got to a point where he couldn't devise a way for the perfect capacitor. He wanted to work on the storage side of things so he worked day and night and came up with a strange design. The design was alternating layers of two forms of circles thin on the outside with fat tabs around the ring. He alternated the layers so that each turn of the rings always went one direction. To the right or to the left. He separated each layer with wax paper and hooked them all in parallel for each side of the capacitor. When the cap was pulsed the capacitor jumped off of the table with tremendous force. He decided on the next capacitor to turn it upside down and record the force added to the natural weight of the device. It was the most exotic thing he could imagine. I am assuming he was using the energizing energy from the longitudinal spark pump to energize one plate and cause micro loops to form between the plates. He said the output was puffs of energy like smoke rings. I'm thinking that they stacked up and bounced away from the building field. This causes lift. This field has inertia going around it like the bubble circles that dolphins play with. The inertia is from a loop of bubble and is very pliable but strong in maintaining it's inertia or form from the loop vis surface tension. The loops move with resistance in the backwards direction and with acceleration in the forward direction. A much different kind of physics is at play there. The backward resistance is what causes the forward movement in the case of the electric rocket because the next puff has something to push against..


Now is this hazardous to life? and can we control the process to make it safer?

Another note on how Kapandze is doing the Turkey show is like this differential gear of this device:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5anke7igxCc&feature=related

I can think of many ways to make this work for us. Changing the torque from low to high would be greatly taken advantage of since some of these systems utilize the subtle effects to create a difference. So what Kapanadze is doing is adding inertia to his pump and making it pump more torque on the inner coils via self accelerating coils on the outside. Field sizes are used much like gears in that sense. So one pulse is intensified and accelerated and reduced on the reflection back to the inner coil to be collected back into the system and shunted to the load via paralleling the connection and then adding a safety spark gap as an overload shunt.

If we use the rules of static electricity then providing a positive hv on the bottom of the craft as opposed to the negative on top of the craft we create two positives and should be able to ride a magnetic like cushion and create a polar field withing the craft for gravity to form. It's own gravity field will be formed within the entire ship between the two plates. All we have to do is mirror the kind of flow that is happening on the earth. Our flow is from space to inner core. The inner core is highly positive and we are getting pulled to that polarity. Creating a reflective shield should enable anti gravity no matter what the weight well limited to the ability of the system to shunt that much current from the reflective shield. The lowest resistance wire should be used for this and clever pulsing of the reflector coil needs to be experimented with as well.

If we look at Tesla's bifilar pancake coil we will notice that on one side the positive is the outer conductor on top and the bottom conductor is negative. if you take two coils and flip them so the negative overlaps the positive what would happen? would it store more voltage between the  inverse windings?