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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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yfree

Quote from: verpies on September 02, 2012, 04:28:19 PM
I doubt TK could forsee this but he might not even care if the green transformer is just an electro-junk for show.

The best explanation of TK's devices I have read so far (see here) suggests that the big tubular coil is just an output filter and the energy generating component (copper or brass ring/disk) is well hidden in a black box.

According to this article, the rest of the visible components, with non-sensical connections, is just junk designed to mislead the observers.

I am glad you are noticing these things. I expressed a similar view in my Reply #13654.
Although, according to the quoted article, this visible 'junk' may still be useful, only it is not responsible for energy conversion, but fulfills standard functions, like filtering, voltage transformation, rectification or modulation. Of course, there may be some senseless  connections left to spice the game.

verpies

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on September 02, 2012, 05:00:37 PM
But the load's only visible connection goes clearly to the »junk«, thus the minimum condition of that »junk« is to conduct the power required by the load. But I can't see how?
Neither do I.
9A going through a 70Ω winding would dissipate 5670W in it
9A going through a 0.5Ω winding would dissipate 40W in it, so that's a little more plausible.
9A going through the core metal itself is even more plausible.

If the voltage supplied to the heater is much higher than 230V then the current would be proportionally smaller than 9A for the same power level, but that trick would require a step-down transformer (or inductive buck converter) INSIDE the heater.

isn't a hidden/invisible wire an another possibility on that video?

verpies

Quote from: yfree on September 02, 2012, 05:20:14 PM
I am glad you are noticing these things. I expressed a similar view in my Reply #13654.
Although, according to the quoted article, this visible 'junk' may still be useful, only it is not responsible for energy conversion, but fulfills standard functions, like filtering, voltage transformation, rectification or modulation. Of course, there may be some senseless  connections left to spice the game.
Yes, I share similar views.
I dislike the wording "energy conversion" although it is technically correct as it denotes conversion of nuclear energy into electric energy.
In lieu of it, I would prefer the term "energy generation" despite it being technically incorrect and implying energy from nothing.

The secondary voltage/current conversion is also a form of "energy conversion" that casual readers confuse with the primary "energy conversion/generation" process. 
The output regulation, filtering, rectification and modulation can also be viewed as a form of waveform conversion.

The latter wording just rings better with casual readers.

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: verpies on September 02, 2012, 05:30:55 PM
isn't a hidden/ivisible wire an another possibility on that video?
We should ask this the spectators which were on site and watched the event with their own eyes. In blurry images and videos there could always something be hidden.

What about the grounding braid next to the blue cable? If this is a coax cable with removed jacket then there could be a center wire which conducts the current for the load (the prominent blue wire would be fake). This braid goes somewhere from the center of the coil to the black boxes. Can't see this based on these photographs and video footage.

But if all visible parts are fake and the whole real thing is hidden in black boxes, then what's the point in watching these photos and videos anyway? Then we are back to square one, means the 2004 video. >:(

Regards

yfree

Quote from: verpies on September 02, 2012, 05:54:59 PM
Yes, I share similar views.
I dislike the wording "energy conversion" although it is technically correct as it denotes conversion of nuclear energy into electric energy.
In lieu of it, I would prefer the term "energy generation" despite it being technically incorrect and implying energy from nothing.
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Yes, I do not like this term, either. But all we do here is just converting energy from one form to the other. We do generate electric current, for instance. But we would not argue about this here and now.

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on September 02, 2012, 06:10:32 PM
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But if all visible parts are fake and the whole real thing is hidden in black boxes, then what's the point in watching these photos and videos anyway? Then we are back to square one, means the 2004 video. >:(

2004 video also has a box.
No, we are not back in square one. Not everything is fake. Watching the available videos carefully and applying logic and physics, we can get very far.
Tracing every connection in the device on the other hand, although sometimes useful too, can proove very misleading. Though, the biggest mistake of ours is disregarding the laws of physics.