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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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Zeitmaschine

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on October 31, 2012, 04:17:21 AM
I would not go as far as to say that the spark gap is obsolete
just because it is not in direct relation to the TKcoil.
But to get rid of the spark gap would be not the worst idea, because who wants to fiddle with a aether polluting spark gap in each and every self-powered device like a lamp or a heater or even a radio?

Regards

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: a.king21 on October 31, 2012, 06:10:34 AM
The point is we do not generate HV. We pulse rectified mains voltage and radiant arises. We do not need or use a flyback in the TK system.
I have been saying all along that the TK device has a HV component. But it arises as a byproduct of the switching process.

Trying to rationally follow your theory, the question arises, if you believe that the HV component you are pointing out
is then also able to jump the gap at the spark gap in for instance the green box device?
Or are you also of the opinion that the sparkgap is a "decoy" and is certainly run with a HV driver, but irrelevant to the overall functionality?
Regards

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on October 31, 2012, 07:45:09 AM
But to get rid of the spark gap would be not the worst idea, because who wants to fiddle with a aether polluting spark gap in each and every self-powered device like a lamp or a heater or even a radio?

Regards

I agree. Melnichenko has for example elaborated on the possible health issues in regards to the use of spark gaps in an article. It certainly should be shielded.
However many OU concepts wouldn't work without it. Achieving a solution where it can be omitted/replaced is highly desirable,
but in many cases very difficult.

wattsup

@all

I have been looking at the IGBT implementation (more finicky then expected) but I think I have found something much better and widely available and more transparent to switching stresses. It is simply done by using two solid state relays (SSR). These generally require a 3vdc to 32vdc pulse signal and can switch 280vac at 70a. They can easily function at 60Hz.

Using a battery fed inverter does not only provide AC voltage/amperage but also the main drive frequency is set in the system. There is no need for frequency control since everything is synced with the inverter.

For 32vdc you take the AC5 line and use a small rheostat set to 32vac, then you half wave rectify with the heat sink components to then feed the DC to both the HV coil for the spark and two SSRs. This is so easy my mind is starting to be insulted.

This type of set-up is very flexible and can be done in many ways. For the HV coil to spark gap, you can use a small AC fed neon ballast and then you do not even need to rectify that part of the power from the AC5 line.

Tonight I will do some easy tests and know for sure.

wattsup


magneto_DC

Quote from: sparks on September 21, 2012, 11:29:02 AM
   Capacitors aka unshorted spark gaps need not be charged in a closed circuit as long as electrons are moving into and out of one spot in space the rest of space recognises this abnormal charge distribution and will respond.  How much simpler can it get.


Hi sparks,

you have written so much what I didnt understand. If english was my native language, I would have ask earlier and more. The barrier of different language is much to high for making a communication useful for you and me.

But what do mean with your above statement? Could you be a little bit more precise?
Where is that spot in space? Is it one spot for both plates, or one for either plates (so two)?

Thanks in advance
magneto_DC

a.king21

Quote from: wattsup on October 31, 2012, 08:40:31 AM
@all

I have been looking at the IGBT implementation (more finicky then expected) but I think I have found something much better and widely available and more transparent to switching stresses. It is simply done by using two solid state relays (SSR). These generally require a 3vdc to 32vdc pulse signal and can switch 280vac at 70a. They can easily function at 60Hz.

Using a battery fed inverter does not only provide AC voltage/amperage but also the main drive frequency is set in the system. There is no need for frequency control since everything is synced with the inverter.

For 32vdc you take the AC5 line and use a small rheostat set to 32vac, then you half wave rectify with the heat sink components to then feed the DC to both the HV coil for the spark and two SSRs. This is so easy my mind is starting to be insulted.

This type of set-up is very flexible and can be done in many ways. For the HV coil to spark gap, you can use a small AC fed neon ballast and then you do not even need to rectify that part of the power from the AC5 line.

Tonight I will do some easy tests and know for sure.

wattsup

Can you quote the link please. We're getting there.
(BTW I tried a diy version of this last year but could not pulse at TDC. So sometimes the pulse was on the zero cross over of the sine wave.)