Overunity.com Archives is Temporarily on Read Mode Only!



Free Energy will change the World - Free Energy will stop Climate Change - Free Energy will give us hope
and we will not surrender until free energy will be enabled all over the world, to power planes, cars, ships and trains.
Free energy will help the poor to become independent of needing expensive fuels.
So all in all Free energy will bring far more peace to the world than any other invention has already brought to the world.
Those beautiful words were written by Stefan Hartmann/Owner/Admin at overunity.com
Unfortunately now, Stefan Hartmann is very ill and He needs our help
Stefan wanted that I have all these massive data to get it back online
even being as ill as Stefan is, he transferred all databases and folders
that without his help, this Forum Archives would have never been published here
so, please, as the Webmaster and Creator of these Archives, I am asking that you help him
by making a donation on the Paypal Button above.
You can visit us or register at my main site at:
Overunity Machines Forum



Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 134 Guests are viewing this topic.

cheappower2012

@Zeitmaschine,you need to consider this,the suit from turkey
is in the 2004 video watching the denmonstration.
TK added things that do nothing to fool the suit,this is why the wiring of the diodes
and transformer are strange.In my opinion the active component is in the can.
There is a lot of hope that he exposed hes secret,you have to understand how TK thinks,
hes a liar,a twister of truth,never will tell anyone how to build hes device,mixes truth and
lies,and is believable.People want to believe in hope,so fool themselves.
Bedini and Beardin are low grade con men,compared to TK,this is what your up against.
The point is your dealing in TK the same level of deception as with SM
very powerful stuff.You have to ask your self this question how did TK fool the turks,and give them nothing
I don't see free energy devices coming from turkey,that was in 2008.
Do you still believe that its a Tesla invention?

a.king21

Diodes:
Magnacoaster: If you look at Magnacoaster's circuit you will see that it makes no sense.
I talked with Patrick Kelly and Dave Lawton about the diodes. They could not figure it out.
I talked with Richard Willis's mother at Magnacoaster and also his chief technical advisor.
Both confirmed that the diodes were correct in the patent.
The point is that they made no electrical sense.
Then I had an inspiration after talking with Kapanadze.
The diodes are correct.
Magnacoaster is using them through their BREAKDOWN VOLTAGE!!!
This produces a sharp negative spike which no electrical engineer would even attempt,
because it violates their training.
This explains why people cannot replicate Magnacoaster.
Yes, he has found a different way to create radiant energy.
He thought outside the box.
If you look at the diagram you will see where Patrick Kelly has put a red question mark.
I have just revealed to you the secret.

MileHigh

A.king21:

I will comment on the Magnacoaster circuit but this will probably be my last posting in this thread.  I just dropped into the thread to encourage the participants to learn about electronics and more specifically about coils since you talk about and play with coils all the time.  If you all work together and put effort into the learning process and do some good work you could improve your understanding and have a better experience.

I noticed that nobody could explain where the voltage spikes come from or could answer the thought experiment question.  Here is one final little brain teaser.  You probably all have standard relays where the coil requires 12 volts to switch the relay on.  So make a simple circuit:   12-volt battery positive -> on-off switch -> relay coil -> battery ground.   Turn the on-off switch ON and you will hear the relay click as normal.   Now, put your index finger on one of the relay coil contacts, and put your middle finger on the other relay coil contact.  Use your index and middle finger on the same hand (very important, could be dangerous if you use both hands).  Now turn the on-off switch OFF.   Explain what you experience and explain exactly why that happens.

For the Magnacoaster circuit, it's pretty comical, sorry to say that but it's true.  I already stated that Richard of Magnacoaster is a fraud and he doesn't even know what he is talking about.   You notice on the left you have a DC battery or a charged capacitor providing power to the circuit.  He has the battery output going through a full-wave bridge rectifier (FWBR.)   An FWBR is used to convert AC into variable DC, you don't need to use it with a battery supply at all.   The six diodes in the left half of the circuit are simply nonsensical.

Note that for the on-off switch he uses a capacitor symbol.  It shows how clueless he is.

The timing device switch when ON will energize the coil that is placed between the two magnets.  The two magnets have essentially no real effect on the circuit.  Anybody can check this out for themselves by making a similar circuit.  So that means the six diodes on the left side of the schematic and the two magnets are all "window dressing" to give the circuit the appearance that something special is going on but unfortunately that's not the case.

When the timing device switch switches OFF and the circuit opens, then coil will discharge its stored energy.  Here is where you say, "This produces a sharp negative spike which no electrical engineer would even attempt."

So, in this circuit, what _really_ happens when the timing device switch switches OFF?   The answer is that the diodes in the right-side FWBR will sustain the high voltage spike generated by the coil.  The four diodes together will act like a very high value resistance and there will be an energy burn through the four diodes.   In other words, the energy supplied by the battery that goes into the coil will get burned off in the four diodes of the right-side FWBR.

Look at the two nodes labelled "98" that represent the "DC output" of the FWBR.  (Giving two separate electrical nodes in a circuit the same designation of "98" is something that is never done and again this shows how clueless Richard is.)  You look at the schematic and at first glance you think some output energy will go into the charging battery labelled "92."

In fact no energy at all will go into the charging battery.  There will be no potential difference across the two nodes labelled "98."  I am assuming that the four diodes in the FWBR will be approximately evenly matched and have approximately the same reverse breakdown voltage.  Again, anybody can test this for themselves.   The setup in the right half of the schematic is nonsensical and does not charge the charging battery.

In summary, what Richard's circuit that you posted does is heat up the four diodes in the right-side FWBR.  He is not even using the schematic symbol for Zener diodes so you assume that they are regular diodes that have a quite high reverse breakdown voltage.  Since regular diodes don't particularly like having current forced through them backwards, this circuit is a diode destroyer and eventually the four diodes in the right-side FWBR will fail.

Sorry to make you unhappy about Richard of Magnacoaster's circuit, but I told you that he is completely clueless and a fraud.  His circuit does not even charge the battery with the "92" label.

So, what's my real message:  Again, don't worry about Magnacoaster, try to get a basic understanding of coils and capacitors and electronics in general.  It will make your experiments more rewarding and you will be able to detect frauds like Richard.

MileHigh

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: a.king21 on November 11, 2012, 09:24:30 PM
The diodes are correct.
Magnacoaster is using them through their BREAKDOWN VOLTAGE!!!
OK then: What exactly is a Breakdown Voltage of a diode?

If I use a diode rated at 400V and I apply a (peak) voltage of - let's say - 1000V then the diode breaks down (it conducts in both directions). But the breakdown is most likely permanent, means the diode gets destroyed in the process.

Except it would be a Zener diode. But the diagram shows not a Zener diode. So what's wrong with my thinking?

Quote from: cheappower2012 on November 11, 2012, 07:51:29 PM
TK added things that do nothing to fool the suit,this is why the wiring of the diodes
and transformer are strange.In my opinion the active component is in the can.
Then the question would be: What is the active component in the can? Even if TK uses a self-made electric component it has still to be an electric component like a coil, capacitor, diode etc. I don't think TK has invented a completely new kind of electric component never heard before.

Now pondering: The coil of a transformer is connected to 50Hz via a Zener diode. Hence one half wave goes through the coil and builds up the magnetic field, the other half wave is blocked. But since the coil generates a high voltage spike during the blocked half wave (equivalent to an opened switch) because the magnetic field collapses, the (or an additional) Zener diode will conduct this high voltage in reverse direction. But the question still is, what to do with this reverse current?

220V means a peak voltage of 220V × 1.41 = 310V at the vertex of the sine wave, therefore the Zener diode must have a value slightly higher then this 310V in order to do something special, if I'm correct.

So far the flimsy theory. Thus who wants to burn up a bunch of diodes ...  :( ;D

wattsup

@Zeitmaschine

About the diode plate, I really appreciate your always there to counter the findings and push this more and more closer. Yes I have seen what you have shown but in other angles this does not show up that way but clearly the other way. See the image below.

The Secondary is taken from the far left and the far right terminals. The far left goes to the tin can. It is just that the shot is right where the diode 4 goes to the copper strip right. The far right secondary you can see a small start then it goes to the copper strip left. The diode 3 (front left) is going to the copper strip center. It is diode 2.

In your last diagram question, the transformer secondary goes from the left and right side terminals but not the center tap.

Also, I did some wire measurements for the primary and secondary of the main transformer to estimate the turns and came up with the following.......
Primary: 24 turns per layer and 8 layers = 192 turns.
Secondary: 8 turns per layer at 4 layers = 32 turns
Ratio: 6:1

Input power from inverter to primary: 220vac at 0.6 amps
(The 0.6 amps includes consumption by the AC5 line which I will consider as very minimal to drive a 1-3 watts spark gap.)
Output voltage from secondary to diode plate: 36 volts at 3.6 amps

So however TK is using this device he has about 36 volts and 3.6 amps to work with from the secondary.

Trial No. 1: Battery -> Inverter -> Device -> Load
12vdc Battery: not measured
Inverter: 0.6 amps
Load: 26 amps

Trial No.2: Battery -> Inverter -> Device -> Load -> Loop back
12vdc Battery: 6.6 amps (80 watts)
Inverter: 0.3 amps
Load: 26 amps

Trial No.3: Inverter -> Device -> Load -> Loop back
Loop back to inverter input: not measured - dammit.
Inverter: 0.5 amps
Load: 23.8 amps

Now all this is based on the 2004 inverter putting out 220 volts since we have only seen the amperage reading of 0.6 amps but no voltage readings. But what if the inverter is putting out more voltage then he wants us to see.

Regarding Zener diodes, now you know why I have been trying to push that question and understand how the hell they really work. There are stud diodes as well as TO3 that are Zener type. Some can go over 100 volts.

@All

Off topic --------

I have had this youtube link to an unrelated subject but just to show how deep certain notions have developed by society not because of reality but for profit. Did you know that the nuclear danger is a hoax and the danger has been amplified to keep this at such a high level of expense in handling, etc.. Hear it from the best guy who knows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejCQrOTE-XA

This may explain why the region around Chernobyl is teaming with wildlife. I saw a documentary on that a while ago but never made the link.

@a.king21

About using the reverse threshold of a diode, I had many a spat with @milehigh on that one. lolololol

wattsup