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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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a.king21

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on November 15, 2012, 08:10:11 PM
OK now. Maybe today is not my brightest day but essentially you are saying that the TK device works on the same principle as the Bedini oscillator as well as the Tesla's magnifying transmitter.

Then how can it be that TK and Bedini could file a patent based on an already patented work of Tesla, respectively that TK could file a patent on an already patented work of Bedini?

Just asking to avoid unnecessary confusion.
Well for one, Tesla hid the patent in plain sight. He knew by that time that any mention of free energy was dangerous.
TK never got a proper patent. It was not "renewed". It was just a patent application.
If you look at another Tesla patent; the one  for radiant energy- everyone is looking at the plate receiver. What they are missing is the on - off pulsing circuit controller. A mechanical transistor if you like. Now re-read idzaza's post!!! TK talks about a mechanical device. That's why I said that the translation confirmed everything I figured out. Even Bedini started off with a mechanical device which switched the power on and off to the motor.
If you look at EV Gray's device - same principle, except Gray caught the radiant energy through a gauze tube.
We have told TK that he cannot get a patent. Better to just build the device and sell it. Then you can get all sorts of legal protection ie copyright, design, and maybe minor patents.
Bedini was very clever, he gets patents on various aspects of the technology ie Battery charging.
That's why I have said that there are a million ways to do this thing.
BTW the one reason people don't get Bedini is that he hides everything in plain sight.
Did you know that one Bedini oscillator can drive 12 batteries?? That's his secret. In plain sight.
So everyone is messing with lots of coils and stuff. Just wind a quad coil or more and see what happens.
I did many variations on Bedini -they all worked- but I was fed up with low power stuff, that's why I analysed TK's device.
Now I'm certain I've figured it out. Time to experiment and build. If you read about Tesla on Bedini's home page he explains it brilliantly. Remember radiant energy is hard to contain - that's why you can charge 12 batteries at once! That's why TK has so much anti-static insulation in his builds. Think about it - why put epoxy resin on a solder joint otherwise?
Why does TK's device not generate heat?  Cold electricity!
Why is it so light for a 2 kw or more device? Radiant energy does not work with a normal heavy trafo. So TK uses his air coils insulated with polystyrene. In plain sight. Those coils are the only thing which can produce the KWs.
Oh and as Bedini says the coils must be Bifilar. So are Tariel's.

Hoppy

Quote from: a.king21 on November 15, 2012, 10:32:38 PM
Did you know that one Bedini oscillator can drive 12 batteries?? That's his secret. In plain sight.
So everyone is messing with lots of coils and stuff. Just wind a quad coil or more and see what happens.
I did many variations on Bedini -they all worked- but I was fed up with low power stuff, that's why I analysed TK's device.
Now I'm certain I've figured it out. Time to experiment and build. If you read about Tesla on Bedini's home page he explains it brilliantly. Remember radiant energy is hard to contain - that's why you can charge 12 batteries at once! That's why TK has so much anti-static insulation in his builds. Think about it - why put epoxy resin on a solder joint otherwise?
Why does TK's device not generate heat?  Cold electricity!
Why is it so light for a 2 kw or more device? Radiant energy does not work with a normal heavy trafo. So TK uses his air coils insulated with polystyrene. In plain sight. Those coils are the only thing which can produce the KWs.
Oh and as Bedini says the coils must be Bifilar. So are Tariel's.

Its common knowledge to anyone who has studied Bedini's work that multiple batteries can be charged at once, either connected in parallel or individually charged in a diode blocked branch configuration. This is a point he has always emphasised and has never been a secret. Furthermore, the batteries can be of mixed capacity when in branch configuration.

Bedini devices using air coils or any other type of coil do not produce radiant (HV) output without an adequate and permanently connected source supply, so how are you so sure that TK's use of polystyrene insulated air coils can work at high power levels in Bedini type configurations without a permanently connected power supply?

Where can you positively identify a bifilar connected coil in TK's photo / videos?

Sorry to be a pain by having to ask you these questions but its important that you can substantiate what you state for the benefit of others who are trying to understand how the TK devices operate. You come across as a confident source of knowledge on how TK's devices work but you give no indication that your knowledge is based on anything more than your own impressions.

a.king21

Quote from: Hoppy on November 16, 2012, 04:10:34 AM
Its common knowledge to anyone who has studied Bedini's work that multiple batteries can be charged at once, either connected in parallel or individually charged in a diode blocked branch configuration. This is a point he has always emphasised and has never been a secret. Furthermore, the batteries can be of mixed capacity when in branch configuration.

Bedini devices using air coils or any other type of coil do not produce radiant (HV) output without an adequate and permanently connected source supply, so how are you so sure that TK's use of polystyrene insulated air coils can work at high power levels in Bedini type configurations without a permanently connected power supply?

Where can you positively identify a bifilar connected coil in TK's photo / videos?

Sorry to be a pain by having to ask you these questions but its important that you can substantiate what you state for the benefit of others who are trying to understand how the TK devices operate. You come across as a confident source of knowledge on how TK's devices work but you give no indication that your knowledge is based on anything more than your own impressions.
You have to understand that I am subject to a confidentiality agreement and can only disclose so much. You are free to accept or reject what I say. If you go back through my posts you will see everything explained there.
I agree that power has to be maintained. However, Bedini does not loop his device. If you read his book "free energy generation" it states that you can have a COP of infinity if you loop it. In one of his videos he hints "why has no-one ever put an inverter in the device?"
TK states openly that he uses a small part of his output to power the input.
In TK's patent nowhere does he have a HV generator. Nowhere. But he has a frequency generator. What is a frequency generator? A device which pulses a current on and off. That's what frequency is. Cycles per second. I have said before that the reason I know about bifilar is because he told me. I also said that in some builds he uses caduceus and maybe that's his development of the coiling. Either way he needs to minimise Lenz. Bedini does it by twisting his wires. But Bedini works at a battery voltage level, whereas TK works at a mains level.
It is almost impossible to spot a bifilar winding. The looped part can be covered up by the same coil on the same former.
Even if you see a loop as I believe is partly seen in the aquarium 2, it is only an indication, not proof.
You are free to put forward other suggestions of course, like anyone else.
So can you tell me what kind of frequency pulsing creates a need for HV shielding and a wet earth? I'm all ears and willing to learn like everyone else.
Also remember I get PM's and some have indicated encouraging results.
My gut reaction is that the coils need to have some Lenz minimisation winding.
I have seen confidential reports by Boyce for instance. So based on all info I can see a common thread emerging with most of the OU devices.
I tried winding a TK coil using ordinary mains wire. Result total disaster. Now I have wound one using HV cable and it is much better.
The  common knowledge stuff re Bedini: He state a couple of months back in the link I provided that he was not allowed by the patent office to put multiple branches (laminar) into his patent by the patent office. So the common knowledge you refer to is not official until a couple of months back.
I back up everything  I post with facts. It is up to the reader to check them.
So my view is that the permanently connected power supply in TK's builds is powered by the loop back from his cop = infinity device.
In any case he says as much in the transcript from the 2004 video recently posted except he says 400 watts in - 5 to 8 K watts out.
So his 2004 device is powered by a permanent 400 watts inverter, although powered by his output nowadays. The info is all there and open sourced. We just have to connect the "dots".
It would be good if someone else could see what I can see and assist in the decoding of his "patent".

Hoppy

Quote from: a.king21 on November 16, 2012, 05:48:01 AM
You have to understand that I am subject to a confidentiality agreement and can only disclose so much. You are free to accept or reject what I say. If you go back through my posts you will see everything explained there.
I agree that power has to be maintained. However, Bedini does not loop his device. If you read his book "free energy generation" it states that you can have a COP of infinity if you loop it. In one of his videos he hints "why has no-one ever put an inverter in the device?"
TK states openly that he uses a small part of his output to power the input.
In TK's patent nowhere does he have a HV generator. Nowhere. But he has a frequency generator. What is a frequency generator? A device which pulses a current on and off. That's what frequency is. Cycles per second. I have said before that the reason I know about bifilar is because he told me. I also said that in some builds he uses caduceus and maybe that's his development of the coiling. Either way he needs to minimise Lenz. Bedini does it by twisting his wires. But Bedini works at a battery voltage level, whereas TK works at a mains level.
It is almost impossible to spot a bifilar winding. The looped part can be covered up by the same coil on the same former.
Even if you see a loop as I believe is partly seen in the aquarium 2, it is only an indication, not proof.
You are free to put forward other suggestions of course, like anyone else.
So can you tell me what kind of frequency pulsing creates a need for HV shielding and a wet earth? I'm all ears and willing to learn like everyone else.
Also remember I get PM's and some have indicated encouraging results.
My gut reaction is that the coils need to have some Lenz minimisation winding.
I have seen confidential reports by Boyce for instance. So based on all info I can see a common thread emerging with most of the OU devices.
I tried winding a TK coil using ordinary mains wire. Result total disaster. Now I have wound one using HV cable and it is much better.
The  common knowledge stuff re Bedini: He state a couple of months back in the link I provided that he was not allowed by the patent office to put multiple branches (laminar) into his patent by the patent office. So the common knowledge you refer to is not official until a couple of months back.
I back up everything  I post with facts. It is up to the reader to check them.
So my view is that the permanently connected power supply in TK's builds is powered by the loop back from his cop = infinity device.
In any case he says as much in the transcript from the 2004 video recently posted except he says 400 watts in - 5 to 8 K watts out.
So his 2004 device is powered by a permanent 400 watts inverter, although powered by his output nowadays. The info is all there and open sourced. We just have to connect the "dots".
It would be good if someone else could see what I can see and assist in the decoding of his "patent".

Thanks for your comments and answers to my questions. The poly dialectric around the inner conductor of the coax cable used for his air coil is only acting as a HV insulation. Its not needed unless the inner conductor is at HV potential. A frequency generator can pulse an inductive circuit to produce very high voltage levels, so how do you know for sure that he is not producing HV from a low voltage level frequency generator by switching an inductive component, such as a coil of wire? All Bedini SG based devices produce HV which is used to charge batteries, so I cannot see why TK should not do this if his devices are in fact based on Bedini tech as you say they are. This HV is viewed by some people as radiant energy and to other people the catalyst for the manifestation of radiant energy - take your pick.

Bedini's use of the term COP infinity only relates to a system where the user does not pay for the source of power. In his book FE Generation, he clearly shows on page 39 an example of a cop infinity system where a solar cell array is supplying the input power. He notes beside it that the operator pays nothing for this input. He also states that this system example is less that 100% efficient. It can therefore be seen from his example that a system COP of infinity can be had without looping back.

wattsup

Quote from: Сергей В. on November 15, 2012, 04:04:34 PM
@all
In attached slow motion video it is very noticeably when transformator was moved up together with "Diode's bridge", White-Conductor which going from capacitor was fixed (not moved at all).

@Сергей В. and @a.king21 and all together

The cap did not move because the wires connected to it are in a looping formation so just lifting the transformer only the small height was not enough to move the cap. Too bad he did not lift it a few more degrees. hehehe

Why is it that every time I see a circuit with two naked transistors or mosfets nicely placed before a primary, I can almost always foresee a major blow out. Eventually, even with the best of them, you do this or that and bang they are toast. I am sure TK new that as well. Pulsing is the biggest dilemma and every one battles that as valiantly as possible.

I don't think 5000 watts can be controlled by two transistors. There is something else.

When Guest "X" asks right from the start of @idzaza's translation (IT), "don't turn it on yet, tell me first how it works". All TK said was the spark gap pulses the primary at 50 hertz. That the inverter can spit out 400 watts but only drawing 0.4 amps producing 5000 watts.

That was his whole explanation to Guest X before he did his demo. He shows a spark gap and talks only about that. For me, this means he is just trying to bypass the question and just talk about that primary being the 6 turn coil. There is nothing possible to gain with a 6 turns coil at 50Hz both inductively and in terms of coupling potential to justify 5000 watts output. Nothing. It can only be possible if the effect occurs in a very localized area............ like in a tin can.

The 5000 watts cannot be made in the TK coil and it cannot be relevant to the spark gap we see. Everything we see and try under normal OU tests produces the expected normal results. The only thing left is what's in the tin can therefore has to harbor the secret. There or possibly inside the TK coil center pipe, but nobody we know took a good look into it.

The secret in the tin can incorporates the following attributes.
2 Inputs as follows:
220vac 0.09 amps and 36 vdc at 12 amps.
Output is 208 vac at 24 amps although we do see the output voltage jumping around in the green box video.

I have checked and re-checked and re-checked the 2004 heat sinked components (HSC) and really cannot see a third wire going to each or a third wire going to one then the other. If there was a third wire, there is no reason to not see it. But we cannot see it. WHY????? The only possible component that I can see being used is a TO3 zener diode or standard diode.

In the green box video while the lamps were lit one guy decides to see if the HSCs are hot so he presses his thumb on them for a good long second with no shaking of the hand to show its hot, no facial expression, nothing, as if the HSCs were not hot at all. If the first one was hot, he would have hesitated to put his thumb onto the second one but there was no hesitation at all.

Experience would have it that even if you put a fan to blow air over the HSCs, they will still get very hot given the output being produced, but that guy proves they were not that hot hence the actual need for the fan would be more to produce a background noise to hide some other noises from inside the green box. The same HSCs used in the 2004 video that was producing 5000 watts had no fan and only a minute after the device was turned off that guy took them and turned then on their sides with no heat testing touching to see if they were  hot. Even a small transistor on a heat sink will stay hot for a long time after being turned off so given a TO3 size component would have been burning hot.

The TK coil was produced in many formats so there is no set topology that we can say has any special repeatable configuration except that they are XX lengths of copper wires.

Saying something is bifilar means there are two windings were the end of the first goes to the beginning of the second winding and thus you have only one input and one output wire from the coil. All TK coils had two inputs and two outputs so where is the bifilar. Listen I know what TK says but I also know now that TK lies so we cannot take all he says as being the absolute truth of his device. Only non relevant vagaries regardless if he is talking in a video or if you are talking to him on the phone or in person. This does not change the person and his apparent need to keep his secret. If TK wanted the world to know how it works, he would have told the world by now given his advancing age and his life sucking smoking habit can only result in an eventual rapid decline. Just too bad indeed.

Now we know about everything there is to know about the 2004 device. There are a few things left to consider and one of them that still bugs me is why did they go to all the trouble of soldering that wavy copper strip onto the tin can cover? Why do that? There is no wire going onto it from the other end. It's as if they used it to cover up or hide what is inside the tin can. Is it possible that the tin can has its own spark generating component that lights up inside the tin can. So they used that copper strip to hide any light reflections. This would have to be looked at but it is not easy because when the bulbs are turned on, they saturate the area. We will have to take a look at that area close up between when the spark gap is on and while the light bulbs are lit.

Sorry for long post. We are getting to 1000 pages on this thread. I wonder if the forum software will handle it. hehehe.

wattsup