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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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xenomorphlabs

1000 pages reached and there will be certainly 2000 pages reached in no time without significant results.

Sure there were like about 10 faked devices like from Teofilius and other morons who felt like fooling people and a couple of hundred set-ups
with some lamp glowing somehow.

As long as output evaluations are based on non-quantitative, mere assumptions such as "lamp at full brightness" not even mentioning
input parameters (what for ?, right ? :D ) and power measurements are done with cheap meters without RMS functionality there will
presumably be another 30-40 (almost alike) pulsed HV transformer set-ups with 'impressive' sparks presented with subjective OU claims.
Proper calorimetry measurements would be an alternative. And of course looping, the king of proofs :)

There was SR193. Impossible to say if it was a fake or not, he chose to just vanish.
Hundreds of people tried to replicate his set-up with no success.

There was Naudin's Kapagen, promising at first. While he generally is leaning towards a more scientific approach, even him
was deceived by some lamps shining somehow and once he realized the proper measurement procedure had to admit (and that is what real scientists
normally do) that he was below unity and just sparked his input to ground at 0.9ish C.O.P. .
Did people learn from his mistakes? No ...

There was Wesley's team (and sure still is). They were on to something, but if i understood that correctly decided to improve their
design to make it more safe. Fair enough and hopefully they will one day be able to come out with a nice device.

A funny thing to observe following this thread from the beginning is, that it became that large, that issues that had been discussed ad nauseum on for example
pages 60-80 will be discussed again on pages 650-670 as if they were never discussed, but maybe it is demanded too much to read 15000 posts to get a picture
of what has been going on.

Time to think about a change in approach? Farmhand is considering one for example. Transmutation has actually been pretty well discussed in this thread with
links to documents posted as well. Hopefully forums search can help you dig it up or someone can really sum it up.
Back to Bedini? Well, good luck.
TK revealing the real , exact method? What kept him to do so until now, will continue to keep him ...

verpies

Quote from: Farmhand on November 16, 2012, 09:05:07 PM
After 1000 pages maybe it is time to take stock. What is the greatest amount of "verifiable" extra energy  "measured" as output from a device built as a result of this thread ? Is there any ?
Yes, in this thread, only the Yoke Device produced verifiable excess energy starting from Post# 8101 of this thread.
It had a well established 5W input limit and an output of 150W (albeit non-credibly measured).

Several people tried to replicate it but failed due to unclear tunning instructions from the inventors (the STAAAR team)

Despite being successful, the Yoke device was abandoned (no further work on it up till now) after the authors had gone to Georgia or Lithuania and got distracted with TK's tubular sparking coil devices, citing health concerns without taking any countermeasures.

P.S.
Wesley had promised to pursue the Yoke Device further but there was not any info from him for 5 months, now.

sadang

Finally, this topic has reached page 1000! I am sure I'll follow it for the another 1000 pages if you all will continue to discuss and interpret Kapanadze's work through the prism of current electromagnetic theory. The solution is not in current concepts of magnetism and electricity. Seek to understand magnetism as Tesla understood in his time, not as we know right now. And do not forget something essential, we live in Earth's magnetic field as a fish in water, if you understand what I want to suggest directly and indirectly!

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on November 17, 2012, 05:23:40 AM
Time to think about a change in approach?
Simple as that: Find the basic physical principle that TK device is based upon.

If one does not know that there is a tape covered with magnetic particles, then he will never figure out how a tape recorder works by just looking at motors, gear wheels, transistors and wires.

Hence TK's basic principle must be a very simple one (similar to an audiotape), because he can play around with it in several completely different setups and it works. Like some tape recorders all looking completely different but they also work.

Therefore what about a transformer which primary and secondary coils do not exist at the same time but rather each of them in a different point in time? Sounds nice. But does it work? ??? ::)

Regards

frankidel

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on November 17, 2012, 05:23:40 AM
1000 pages reached and there will be certainly 2000 pages reached in no time without significant results.

Sure there were like about 10 faked devices like from Teofilius and other morons who felt like fooling people and a couple of hundred set-ups
with some lamp glowing somehow.

As long as output evaluations are based on non-quantitative, mere assumptions such as "lamp at full brightness" not even mentioning
input parameters (what for ?, right ? :D ) and power measurements are done with cheap meters without RMS functionality there will
presumably be another 30-40 (almost alike) pulsed HV transformer set-ups with 'impressive' sparks presented with subjective OU claims.
Proper calorimetry measurements would be an alternative. And of course looping, the king of proofs :)

There was SR193. Impossible to say if it was a fake or not, he chose to just vanish.
Hundreds of people tried to replicate his set-up with no success.

There was Naudin's Kapagen, promising at first. While he generally is leaning towards a more scientific approach, even him
was deceived by some lamps shining somehow and once he realized the proper measurement procedure had to admit (and that is what real scientists
normally do) that he was below unity and just sparked his input to ground at 0.9ish C.O.P. .
Did people learn from his mistakes? No ...

There was Wesley's team (and sure still is). They were on to something, but if i understood that correctly decided to improve their
design to make it more safe. Fair enough and hopefully they will one day be able to come out with a nice device.

A funny thing to observe following this thread from the beginning is, that it became that large, that issues that had been discussed ad nauseum on for example
pages 60-80 will be discussed again on pages 650-670 as if they were never discussed, but maybe it is demanded too much to read 15000 posts to get a picture
of what has been going on.

Time to think about a change in approach? Farmhand is considering one for example. Transmutation has actually been pretty well discussed in this thread with
links to documents posted as well. Hopefully forums search can help you dig it up or someone can really sum it up.
Back to Bedini? Well, good luck.
TK revealing the real , exact method? What kept him to do so until now, will continue to keep him ...

About Naudin kapagen, read de pdf, it's not the same experience, it looks like a radio receiver now in refuge de sarenne, they are drawings in the pdf i didn't see anywhere.