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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Zeitmaschine

Is there a tube-equivalent to a thyristor or a triac? If so then a OU device based on glowing tubes would look way more interesting and charming - especially if it works. :)

forest

The best idea about tubes comes from Steven Mark.Noise level.

jbignes5

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on January 24, 2013, 03:35:05 PM
Is there a tube-equivalent to a thyristor or a triac? If so then a OU device based on glowing tubes would look way more interesting and charming - especially if it works. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyratron

NickZ

 
  There was a diagram using transistors, but I don't see it on this link.
As every diagram and replication seams quite different. Some are using transistors, and some don't.
  I have used a single 2n3055 or TIP 3055T as a switching transistor, on my yoke core, and obtain over 1000v output on 12v input, without a load. Voltage can't be properly read, as the values are off the 1000v scale. Needle on the analog meter is nailed to the end.
Adding more turns on the secondary will raise voltage, but decrease the usable current. So, more turns are not always better.
http://web.archive.org/web/20120301094858/http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/
   
 
 


wasabi

Quote from: jbignes5 on January 24, 2013, 03:27:41 PM
This is a technical lie. Generally rated for higher blocking voltages and silicon is rated for higher conduction current.
It is the truth. I can show you more tube/transistor datasheets that support this statement, then you can to the contrary (re. the word "Generally"). 

But, alas, this is an open forum and many smart people read this.  Let's do peer review and hear some opinions from other users about the statement below:
"Generally, vacuum tubes are rated for higher blocking voltages and silicon is rated for higher conduction current".
Just a simple "Agree" / "Disagree", please.

Quote from: jbignes5 on January 24, 2013, 03:27:41 PM
"All devices have an input and output.
Resistors too?  ...or did you have only amplifiers in mind. Separate input and output or combined like a capacitor? 
C'mon be more precise when you discuss such stuff with engineers because or you will be eaten alive.

Quote from: jbignes5 on January 24, 2013, 03:27:41 PM
Tubes use a voltage potential on the input to affect the current going through the device. Silicon uses current to control current except for the JFET".
What about  MOSFETs and IGBTs? Maybe going school is not so bad after all.
But why are you even discussing the input properties of these switches/amplifiers when we are discussing the power handling capabilities of these devices which are properties of their OUTPUT ?   The pursuit of OU in this thread is all about power and its time integral (energy).

But wait! Did you write "current going through the device" in reference to the tubes? So now you admit that tubes can conduct current ?  Do you yield Sir?
If you do not want to wait for the peer review to come in, look up how many 5Amp vacuum tubes you will find and how many transistors. Conversely, look up how many 1000Volt vacuum tubes you will find and how many transistors.
If you do this, you will discover new wisdom in the statement : ""Generally, vacuum tubes are generally rated for higher blocking voltages and silicon is rated for higher conduction current".

Quote from: jbignes5 on January 24, 2013, 03:27:41 PM
"The lie is that tubes are inferior.
Did I write that? ...in such the absolute terms?
But, yes, vacuum tubes, are inferior for most today's applications. You cannot make a good computer out of them, nor a cell phone, not even a car battery charger nor locomotive motor speed controller. Vacuum tubes cannot even drive most speakers directly in an audio amplifier.
They are not completely useless though, e.g. they are good for HV RF amplifiers.  Upper frequency limit, hmm...
Hey Peers, what's the highest frequency of an >10W vacuum tube amplifier that you have ever seen?

Quote from: jbignes5 on January 24, 2013, 03:27:41 PM
The truth is yes they cost more because we dropped them. Hmm... Isn't it funny we dropped them just about the time Farnsworth was completing his experiments. Yes transistors are better when they are in an environment that is prone to vibrations and the size and cost are lower but that does not make them better.
You'd do better if you'd listed applications in which vacuum tubes are better than transistors, such as HV RF amplifiers.
Farnsworth experiments were not in vain. The Multipactor Effect was developed into Fusor and Fusor was developed into a Polywell.  The former can even be bought commercially today as a neutron source, and the latter is a promising energy source.

But this is a different subject suitable for a different thread as it involves nuclear energy release from plasma, and this thread is not about that.

Quote from: jbignes5 on January 24, 2013, 03:27:41 PM
Thats why I post references. You know the stuff in the "". That stuff in the "" is a quote from sources that I have researched. Most are accredited to IEEE sources.
Hey Peers. Let's vote if you prefer links to articles or if you prefer to have them quoted verbosely on this forum.

Quote from: jbignes5 on January 24, 2013, 03:27:41 PM
Meaning it's from real engineers and not armchair pencil pushers. You are twisting things that I post and they are not even my words, they are quotes from reputable sources.
Sorry, I thought that you knew what you were quoting.

Quote from: jbignes5 on January 24, 2013, 03:27:41 PM
Anyways I'm done with this game you are playing.
This is not a game, this is an opposition to the misleading statements and conclusions that you post.
Most old-timers are immune to it, but less experienced members cannot develop because of this and instead of becoming valuable contributors to this forum they stagnate.