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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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forest

Quote from: Farmhand on January 31, 2013, 08:23:59 PM
Hi elementsix, Horsepower is simply another unit of power, 1 horsepower is about 750 Watts, this is power, which is the rate at which energy is applied or dissipated.
It is not necessarily the amount of energy. In my opinion, Tesla is definitely talking about a value of the oscillating power, not the output power.
I think in most cases when Tesla talks of a "rate of movement of electricity" he is talking about oscillating power or reactive power.
Not "output power" or dissipated energy. Tesla coils can accumulate a lot of oscillating power/energy but that is not output until it is dissipated in a useful load
as useful work, then it can be called output energy.

A 30 Kw motor is about a 40 HP motor. My car engine can produce 151 Kw of power which is about 203 Horse Power.

Current is not power, power is not necessarily energy and oscillating energy/power is not necessarily output or work done on a load.

Cheers

Farmhand

Please don't mess people in heads ! Power is all we need, but SUSTAINED power , not a power burst but continuos power magnification and this is what Tesla did and if you carefully read that (and other ) patents you will surely agree with me. ONLY REAL POWER can generate various effects he described in his lectures., if that was only HV or high frequency he would never use the term : magnification.
You touched the truth saying he had HUGE reactive power in his circuit - yes, indeed. And he knew how to convert it into usable effects and that's all what we need....


Here I want to mark something which may sound silly for you : I believe in RCL resonant circuit power is always real until disturbed. Like a soap bubble - nice look but you do not touch it

verpies

Quote from: forest on February 01, 2013, 07:21:14 AM
Please don't mess people in heads!
How is Farmhand messing with people heads by pointing out the facts, such as?:
- Force is not energy (nor power)
- Voltage is not energy (nor power)
- Current is not energy (nor power)
- Electric charge is not energy (nor power)
- Peak power is not average or continuous power

He is doing them a favor by not allowing them to deceive themselves when they see more current at the input than the output (or voltage) or higher power for a fraction of a cycle. 

Also, the distinction between peak power and continuous power is very important in analysis of power concentrating systems, such as circuits involving long charges and short discharges (e.g. spark-gaps, shorting capacitors, opening inductors), where power is briefly concentrated in time.

Farmhand is doing those people a favor by arming them with tools allowing to separate the wheat from the chaff.

jbignes5

 
Now Hoppy you are nit picking again. It is not weather he uses 1 wire. It is merely a way of showing how this action can be applied to ANY capacity not just our earth. If you look at the Tesla description again of his one wire system you will see the same methodology to power a load with one single wire. In the case of TK he used it to get real current from the ground. Which by the way is also the way Tesla used it in his transmittting system.

Does anyone not see the parallels here?
Are we only gonna argue semantics and not figure this out?

I for one have set my course of investigation on this method. This seems the most promissing avenue of research I have found yet. It is soo simple it stuns me that this was never looked into before.

If we understand that longitudinal energy is much different then our current understanding of traditional energy flow. It does not need two wires to propagate. The method to extract energy is 90 degrees out of phase to the traditional method. The examples that I have shown show this fact.

We have to start looking at the wire as a tube for force(field). This force can be compressed and moved in the same action in that tube. Just like a straw moves a liquid if compressed and slid one way or the other. The field around a wire follows the wire. The field can be manipulated. Wires are matter and contain bound charges. Those charges can be shifted back and forth and create a pressure or vacuum. The vacuum = negative, The pressure = positive. Charges have fields as well.

In AC systems these charges are moved back and forth between two wires. In DC the charge flow is in either direction but only one direction with two wires. In this system we use only one wire and move the charges back and forth between two points of the same wire. Of course there is also pulsed systems but in the initial testing phase I will endevour to do only unpulsed systems if possible.

Hoppy

Quote from: jbignes5 on February 01, 2013, 09:34:59 AM

Now Hoppy you are nit picking again. It is not weather he uses 1 wire. It is merely a way of showing how this action can be applied to ANY capacity not just our earth. If you look at the Tesla description again of his one wire system you will see the same methodology to power a load with one single wire. In the case of TK he used it to get real current from the ground. Which by the way is also the way Tesla used it in his transmittting system.



You need to show clearly how a 1-wire system 'sucking-up' ground currents could have possibly applied to TK's setup. Frankly, I think its nonsense! Carry on dreaming. By the way, there is absolutely no  evidence that Tesla got - "real current from the ground". Maybe you really mean - used the earth as a conductor to carry current derived from the grid that powered his devices?


27Bubba

Quote from: Hoppy on February 01, 2013, 10:31:28 AM
Maybe you really mean - used the earth as a conductor to carry current derived from the grid that powered his devices?

That's what I'm thinking. .

Having said that,  I'm leaving this forum. There is nothing for free... and that includes free electricity. I got better use of my time by doing something else.

The Best to ALL!