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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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elementSix

Quote from: Grumage on April 10, 2013, 11:00:56 AM
Dear Verpies,

How important is the DC saturation? The NMR frequency of any material is based upon the magnetic field that sits on it. The higher the magnetic field get's, the higher the material's resonant frequency becomes.

My own thought for this one would be a fixed RF frequency and vary the intensity of the magnetizing/saturating force. That way you would hopefully keep catching the " Whisp"

Any way I am putting "money where mouth is ". I have ordered some HF transistors from Farnell. Should be good to 30MHZ. Going to try driving a Tesla primary with continuous wave. And sit a transformer within the field.

BTW. I had a Foundry business for a number of years and it struck me Pig Iron may be a good source for "fuel".

Cheers Grum.

PS, I am suddenly reminded that we all seem to "Put on you" I hope you don't mind? :)
But thank you, I'm sure we all do!!

Here is a link to  the forum that I put most of the info on that subject of NMR.  It does work, the Nobel prize was given to a guy in the late 50's for his experiments.  Copper will work just fine, but the impulses have to be straight up and down practically.  The priming field is first put on for 10 seconds or so to align the vectors of the little gyro-magnetic molecules.  Then the first pulse turns them up on their sides as they spin up to high saturation energy level.  But the same pulse will not work for the spin down, so you use another frequency to spin them back down to low saturation power level.  then repeat the next pulse and so on.  Its just like using a bike wheel.  You hang the wheel by one side of its axil and spin it up and it turns upright and turns as it is spinning.   CW does work, but it doesnt produce what pulsed RF does.. 
PS  you need around a 40 watt pulse to achive this, 

http://www.overunity.com/13164/tk-device-tpu-only-enter-if-you-seek-truth-cause-here-it-is/

verpies

Quote from: sparks on April 10, 2013, 10:50:10 AM
Could we excite some neuclear reaction using atomospheric nitrogen? 
Over 99% of the atmospheric nitrogen is 14N that has the same number of protons as neutrons, thus its neutrons cannot be exposed by imposing more angular momentum on them by RF or NMR.  Without exposing those neutrons, I do not know how to make the atmospheric nitrogen decay.

Quote from: sparks on April 10, 2013, 10:50:10 AM
If the fast electrons encounter a magnetic field don't they slow down by producing various longer wave photons depending on how they are slowed down? 
Magnetic fields do not slow down beta particles immediately. They just curve their trajectories.  Slowly, this curvature and centripetal acceleration makes them radiate photons through synchrotron radiation and they spiral down. The frequency of this radiation is usually in the X-ray band for electrons moving close to C.

verpies

Quote from: Grumage on April 10, 2013, 11:00:56 AM
How important is the DC saturation?
For iron it can increase the RF penetration by 7000% due to the decrease of iron's magnetic permeability.
For core materials such as brass this is not necessary.

Quote from: Grumage on April 10, 2013, 11:00:56 AM
The NMR frequency of any material is based upon the magnetic field that sits on it. The higher the magnetic field gets, the higher the material's resonant frequency becomes.
Yes. The skin effect also varies as the square root of inverse frequency.

Quote from: Grumage on April 10, 2013, 11:00:56 AM
My own thought for this one would be a fixed RF frequency and vary the intensity of the magnetizing/saturating force. That way you would hopefully keep catching the " Whisp"
That's possible too and that is what the Yoke device did with the 50Hz on one of its primary windings.  Actually some users of this forum rejected the Yoke device because there was too much disproportion between the primary input and secondary output (and vice versa) for the turn ratio that existed between these windings.

Actually, the biggest problem with your method is that the variation in the intensity of the magnetizing force, also couples to the secondary winding through the ordinary transformer action.  That's why it's better to frequency modulate the HF rather than the perpendicular magnetizing force.

P.S.
The proper perpendicular polarizing and confining magnetizing force should be unipolar, e.g. caused by DC+AC>0, or in other words LF AC riding on top of DC in such manner that the amplitude of the AC is << DC level.  Permanent magnets can take place of the DC component.

Grumage

Quote from: verpies on April 10, 2013, 12:39:48 PM
For iron it can increase the RF penetration by 7000% due to the decrease of iron's magnetic permeability.
For core materials such as brass this is not necessary.
Yes. The skin effect also varies as the square root of inverse frequency.
That's possible too and that is what the Yoke device did with the 50Hz on one of its primary windings.  Actually some users of this forum rejected the Yoke device because there was too much disproportion between the primary input and secondary output (and vice versa) for the turn ratio that existed between these windings.

Actually, the biggest problem with your method is that the variation in the intensity of the magnetizing force, also couples to the secondary winding through the ordinary transformer action.  That's why it's better to frequency modulate the HF rather than the perpendicular magnetizing force.

P.S.
The proper perpendicular polarizing and confining magnetizing force should be unipolar, e.g. caused by DC+AC>0, or in other words LF AC riding on top of DC in such manner that the amplitude of the AC is << DC level.  Permanent magnets can take place of the DC component.

Dear Verpies,

Many, many thanks for your reply. More lateral thinking, another fall? :) What about using 27MHz ie the old CB? Here in the UK we were forced into 27Mhz FM. Now could we use the 27 Mhz carrier and apply our driving frequency to it?

From what element six was saying we need about 40 W. There are "Burners" quite capable of much more!!! But can you put the output of a CB radio into a coil? This is not my field of expertise!!

Cheers Grum.

Hoppy

Quote from: verpies on April 10, 2013, 09:53:45 AM
Yes, for a moment it did sound like an overloaded stick welding transformer when the electrode gets stuck.  Somebody directed my attention to that sound on another thread in this forum. Was it you?
If the saturating field is unipolar (e.g. created by a magnet + DC) then the current induced in the secondary will be PDC and that does not require rectification.
Yes, a short and powerful HV discharge could produce the correct RF for tickling the core, but a Tesla coil would be a lot of work just to get the HV and AFAIK TC does not produce short pulses by itself. 
There are so many simpler ways to produce short powerful pulses, the simplest being a capacitive discharge into a spark gap.  A more complex and also more efficient solution would be the 50kW nanosecond pulse that is produced by a DSRD.  IMO the most efficient would be an FM RF oscillator. Maybe such an oscillator is initially powered by that 9V battery?
I don't know. If they made them with soft iron cores (not transformer silicon steel) then it would be easier to saturate.
But pure iron is harder to smelt than steel, so I don't think so. 

Conjecure: Maybe TK replaced the transformer's steel core with a brass one - who knows?

I suggested a Tesla coil because this and a spark gap are what TK show in both the 'tin can'' and 'green box' videos. Assuming these are not just eye candy, then he may have produced his HV for the transformer primary this way, being the only way he could think of until he started experimenting with a gas burner igniter we see in another video (or was it the other way around?). Its quite possible that in addition to the 9V battery, TK could have hidden another bigger battery in the 'green box' video to power up the TC / SG.  All conjecture but being really optimistic, it could be that simple. I have mentioned the Trafo noise before as have others and I seem to recall that it was suggested that this noise was the best clue to we have to the mode of operation.