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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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jbignes5

Quote from: Jack Noskills on January 17, 2014, 06:07:44 AM
If you can build, you should take a look at this.


http://www.overunity.com/14211/lenzless-resonant-transformer/new/#new


I discovered resonant magnetic flux effect. Output does not affect input. Output power depends on the Q-factor of the resonant LC-circuits. Transformer gives out more electrical energy than it requires to run. Magnetic energy is contained within the core and it is used to efficiently create electrical energy.


I did a low power version, see how much it can be scaled up. There is a pdf which exlains why it works. If you agree with my conclusions then maybe it is time to have a go at it.


Might I ask a few questions?
I as you said you are using magnetic resonant flux in a circular path(s).. Then what in prey tell is allowing for the transformer action to the secondary??
If you are using a core and do not go beyond saturation then how is the inductive process still working?


I am not asking these questions to mock you or anything like that. My aim here is to see what you think is really happening in your process. I think I have figured out what the process is even on the smallest scales, I just need verification. Independant verification.


My take on this is it has been misconstrued the whole time. It is not the magnetic field that is responsible for the induction. It has been the electric field and it's intensity that are directly responsible for all action at a distance. The intensity of the potential is the default determiner of the generation in the secondary. With lower intensities weakening the strength off the electric field as it cuts the matter of the copper secondary.


Tesla said to fulfill the priciples of his discovery that a pure high voltage field (strongest of the two fields) with organized patterns will cycle atuomatically around a segmented conductor. You could think of it like the pattern you see with a fan in front of an old crt TV. even though the blades are known to spin in one direction physically they appear to flow back and forth with cycllic frequency response. With the apparent direction of flow in this case being very real in effect.


With the magnetic field binding itself inside of the core and the electric field being bound to the magnetic field we get two very interesting things to happen. The magnetic field bunches up on two or 4 diametric sides of the loop. These bunches pin inside of them points of higher potential and an electric line forms from that point. Depending on the strength or intensity of the eletric field depends on how many lines form from that point and the density of those lines. The density of the lines emitted or anchored from the points bound in the magnetic chaanel inside of the core determines the amount of current it can move in a conductor as the electric lines moves through the secondary. Subtracting anything like resistance and self induction are key to how much the receiving coil or seconday can allow to flow(Real Current(Fake Electrons).


Tesla's new generator utilized high voltage field coils and trapped the Magnetic field withing the field core. But if the timing was right the Rotor coil would form a heavy current high magnetic field and reacted to the field cores magnetic lumps and tend to syncronize. With that being the case the magnetic field connection from the rotor and field cores allows the high magnetic field to cut the windings of the high voltage field coils. This generated even more high voltage which translates into more strength of the electric lines emitted by the field coils. Tesla said that when he tried to stop the core or rotor that it allowed more lines to cut the rotor coil and generating more real current. Tesla said that one could put a motor onto the shaft and turn the rotor in the opposit direction of the field coils. This would generate even more Real current and you could use that for the motor and whatever your needs would be. Lighting, onboard electronics and such. Even at very slow speeds this would allow for an increased efficiency of the generating system.


Tesla never labeled this motor/generator. He was still testing it and the pierce arrow experiment was the results of that invention. It got shelved when the people who were going to test and dissect the setup freaked out when he drove in to get it tested at Westinghouse's labs. They are reported to have said that it ran from Black magic" and Tesla who was majorly offended got back into the vehicle and drove off. Tesla didn't have a very good working relationship with Westinghouse's engineers. They butted heads quite a few times before that. Tesla parked the Pierce arrow and pulled his special High current tubes and walked away. There are several things of note. The more ring field cores you have the greater the strength of the electric lines cutting the rotor coils. A longer rotor field core is ok but it must fit within Tesla's specs of 1/4 wavelength. The rotor coil must be bifilar as well. Going from an very high self induction field coils to a very low self induction and resistance of the Bifilar design.
  A lower resistance and lower self induction allowed for better load current response with less heating of the core and better magnetic field generation. This type of motor doesn't need to be perfect either. It has a self centering design and bearings don't need to be very strong just capable of higher speeds.


Tesla did have a nick name for these types of motors. They were Dynamic transformers. Strictly through induction and no real magnetic pathway. The pathway was used primarily for locking the magnetic field up and away from the electric field but still using the inertia of the heavy magnetic field to make real current through that inertia. The same process is utilized in regular transformers the only thing is it is static and can not gain or have gains as high as the dynamic transformer.


Bah I have gone out there. Ok well maybe this makes sense???

d3x0r

Quote from: jbignes5 on January 17, 2014, 02:55:10 PM

Might I ask a few questions?
I as you said you are using magnetic resonant flux in a circular path(s).. Then what in prey tell is allowing for the transformer action to the secondary??
If you are using a core and do not go beyond saturation then how is the inductive process still working?


it's inducing into a tertiary... I suspect that the combined poles will have to flee the core, and it might as well be 2 solenoids with cores in parallel wrapped with a 3rd coil...

but you should post that question on that thread...

jbignes5

Quote from: d3x0r on January 17, 2014, 08:51:49 PM
it's inducing into a tertiary... I suspect that the combined poles will have to flee the core, and it might as well be 2 solenoids with cores in parallel wrapped with a 3rd coil...

but you should post that question on that thread...


I think it is very relevant to this thread as well.
Again what is inducing?

In the sense of the core how could it induce if the magnetic pathway is circular and constrained to the core? These are the important questions...

Farmhand

Quote from: d3x0r on January 17, 2014, 08:51:49 PM
QuoteQuote from: jbignes5 on January 17, 2014, 08:55:10 PM

Might I ask a few questions?
I as you said you are using magnetic resonant flux in a circular path(s).. Then what in prey tell is allowing for the transformer action to the secondary??
If you are using a core and do not go beyond saturation then how is the inductive process still working?
it's inducing into a tertiary... I suspect that the combined poles will have to flee the core, and it might as well be 2 solenoids with cores in parallel wrapped with a 3rd coil...

but you should post that question on that thread...

I keep linking this document I hope people are reading it.  ;) Last paragraph of the quote is the really relevant part. When a load is placed on the transformer the extra current goes directly to the secondary, it does not make more flux. In fact when the transformer is loaded the flux decreases only due to core losses ect. the secondary is not tapping the core flux. It take a bit to wrap the head around but it makes sense to me. The transformer would work without the core but the core manipulates a lot more the inductance ect.

http://sound.westhost.com/xfmr.htm

Quote4.   Interesting Things About Transformers
As discussed above, the impedance ratio is the square of the turns ratio, but this is only one of many interesting things about transformers ... (well, I happen to think they are interesting, anyway  ).

For example, one would think that increasing the number of turns would increase the flux density, since there are more turns contributing to the magnetic field. In fact, the opposite is true, and for the same input voltage, an increase in the number of turns will decrease the flux density and vice versa. This is counter-intuitive until you realise that an increase in the number of turns increases the inductance, and therefore reduces the current through each coil.

I have already mentioned that the power factor (and phase shift) varies according to load, and this (although mildly interesting) is not of any real consequence to most of us.

A very interesting phenomenon exists when we draw current from the secondary. Since the primary current increases to supply the load, we would expect that the magnetic flux in the core would also increase (more amps, same number of turns, more flux). In fact, the flux density decreases! In a perfect transformer with no copper loss, the flux would remain the same - the extra current supplies the secondary only. In a real transformer, as the current is increased, the losses increase proportionally, and there is slightly less flux at full power than at no load.

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Anyway when I run my toroidal transformer I can detect definite magnetic effects from the ends of the four coils wound on it. With Tesla's transformers and motors that have no pole projections there is still a magnetic effect between where the four coils meet each other. I think that is where the "poles" appear and alternate as they are shifted by the way they are excited.

On top of that there is direct transformer action to the rotor from the coil I think in generators and motors. Even squirrel cages have "wires" in them.

There is another document that explains how the flux cuts the windings in the process of engaging the core or something, you'll need to read it, it is a theory I think, not proven fact as far as I can tell. Linked below.


Farmhand

OK so I have also done an experiment where the four (thick wire) secondaries are in series and two sets of (thin wire) primaries are made by putting opposite primaries in series so as to get effectively two split primaries 90 degrees apart on the core, I powered one primary set of opposite coils with a 50 Hz sine wave of say 20 volts and shunt the second set of opposite primaries with a 14 uF capacitor the primaries are about 500 mH per set of two. The result is that the voltage in the coils shunted by the capacitor becomes as much as three times what is supplied to the other set of primaries, but if I try to load the other set of (thin wire) primaries like an isolation transformer the output is dismal and the voltage in them drops to less than the voltage applied to the powered set, however the secondary still outputs good power due to the action of the powered set of primaries.

My theory on that is that the voltage in that 90 degree tank is only from leakage flux or poorly induced by the other primaries, however because of the tank and resonance the voltage can build up quite high quite quickly but there is very little power behind it. I consider some direct induction from the powered set of primaries because when I load the primary set up as a tank there is some increase in input, so direct induction I think.

I would video tape the experiment but I don't feel like explaining myself and motives to people endlessly. Still I may demo some experiments while I have them out. One is part made and shows how the other is wound as an inverter type transformer in each corner, they can be connected however.

Cheers