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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

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stivep

It is important  to also have sceptical  view at things around.
I was working  on my letter to chat of Overunity Group with  T-1000  Arunas and  few important researchers in it.


So that  what is  below is  "some light" although it is  mostly sceptical it is also  look at the other side of the truth,.
So please understand this is just  opinion expressed and does not necessarily falls into  the universal reality  criteria


  Guys.  Be realistic.  Mechanism of FE must stand on classical physics and do not violate  laws of thermodynamics.
We might have new approach to classical physics if we find something that does not  match. And I believe it is possible.
So from that point - the new updated model( as physics is based on comfortable models) will become  classical example of that new physics
Model has nothing to do with the truth.
Model is just accepted truth
Model is also  supported by number of papers that are based on it.
By that  plenty of guys  may lose a lot or may  have need to  correct their papers according to new  and emerging model.


Eric Dollard is the nice guy however  I spoke to Dr. Peter Lindemann
Based on his opinion Eric is kind of weirdo who could be   rich and known as he has  very well collected  potential for it , but he chosen  not to.




I Wesley  and my friend  Roy  we have problems with Eric Dollard.as well 
He also seemed to have been a big proponent of "Orgone Energy", that some forms of RF are inherently biological in origin and if they can be focused correctly they would heal the sick.  Wilhelm Reich was a well respected Psychiatrist before he fell down that rabbit hole.
It goes to show that educational credentials alone do not ensure that an unproven technology is inherently valid. 
Even the massive monetary investment into an unproven idea does not validate it.
Our economic history is littered by men that have risked their fortunes on possibilities that can never be realized. 
A concept should not be validated either by the number of common thugs or politicians (is there that much of a difference sometimes<g>) that can be enticed enough to threaten the researchers for the perceived value of their imminent discovery.
Science has shown that theories must lead to experiments that can be repeated by other less enthusiastic researchers.
Cold fusion had PhD's making claims and investors available to give their money. 
Unfortunately it all fell apart when reproducing the experiment became a problem - the underlying concept was completely flawed.
I also agree with doubts  regarding transmutation of elements.
The energy required to rip a nucleus or a proton out of an atom is enormous, especially considering using electromagnetic waves. 
The photons of RF can at best produce increased heat.  You require photons at least at the far ultra-violet range to even knock a valence electron out of it's outer most shell and ionize it. 
The energy required to do that to a nuclear subatomic particle would be enormously greater.
You would have a much better chance cleaving a 6 foot thick steel wall with a "spit ball" projected from six feet away -
here children regularly tear up pieces of a straw's cover, add a little spit, roll them into balls and use them as little blow guns).
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Title:
"some amazing Eric Dollard experiments proving Tesla's work that they did at Borderland labs  involved Eric Dollard, Peter Lindemann & Tom Brown"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFa-IymyWHM


Peter decided  along with  Bedini and Aaron Murakami  to make some money.
So they created 
Energy Science & Technology Conference .1520 W Wyoming Ave, Hayden, ID 83835 with cost of $400 for entry.
Peter sales his "books" out from his website:http://free-energy.ws/peter-lindemann/
He works at  inventing motors.




Aaron Murakami: I spoke to him in 2011.
He said that Eric is now living out of his car out in the Mojave Desert The Mojave Desert is a rain-shadow, mostly high desert area,
that occupies a significant portion of southeastern California and smaller parts of central California, southern Nevada, southwestern Utah
and northwestern Arizona in the United States. 
Aaron ( supposedly )was  unemployed  who  have learn how to use benefits to  have good life out of it.


John Bedini  with his Bedini  motors never fly  at all.

All of this group is commercially oriented  and the only guy who is kind of less dependent but depends of that created by  mentioned  fellows structure
is Eric Dollard
We see Eric as the guy whose  name was lifted by the group and  advertized  for one single reason. Make him an icon and benefit on it.
So it is  very much important to them , as well as it gives some  comfort ( not that much)to Eric ,being an Icon.



My friend in science  Roy wrote me a letter . He is  skeptic so  we need such guys as we tend to  speed up in given direction and  Roy is giving us correctional triangulation.                                               


Peter Lindemann :                           ..                                                                                                                                                                                                     
Quote Roy letter:                                                                                             
Dollard, Carson and Lindemann, as well as unproven biographical facts regarding Marconi, the further down the "rabbit hole" I find myself.
Most of the longitudinal wave source material you cite seems to trace back to the Borderland Research Group.
Most of their material appears cheaply produced and more than twenty years old, and they seem to be deeply involved in "Radionics".


No doubt you are aware of what Radionics promoters believe it to be:
In the 1930's dubious people built arrays of variable resistors, coils, and multi-colored lights that, utilizing the longitudinal electromagnetic waves of life energy,
could diagnose illness, and ultimately cure them (manufacturers were said to have made millions making these devices for Radionic Practitioners
and back then millions of dollars were worth a lot more than they are today).
When cops in the fraud department became involved, they found that the machines were wired seemingly randomly -
some components were only connected using one wire alone. Although anyone aware of electronics would describe this as a box of nonsense, the boys of Borderland explain that these devices use those lossless faster than light telepathic life energy longitudinal waves, which require only one wire to be functioning in a circuit.  Of course the cops shutting all this down was really just part of secret international conspiracy...
I found fascinating beliefs regarding Marconi. 
Take a look at http://alchemy-forums.forumotion.com/t476-the-underground-city-of-marconi-fulcanelli-tesla , it seems to explain "I'm from Venezuela" completely. 
According to this posting, Marconi continued his work on a massive ship somewhere on some ocean, finally founding a technologically advanced city underground
somewhere in the jungles of Venezuela. 
From there he brought Tesla in on it (apparently faking Tesla's death as he had his own) and the two perfected free energy,
teleportation, antigravity, hyperdrive, transmutation of matter, time travel and immortality - all this will eventually be revealed for the good of mankind.
For now they seem to believe they must hide their existence from powerful evil men that would use this knowledge for evil (someone obviously read too much bad pulp fiction in their youth).  Supposedly they now have other secret underground cities on the Moon and on Mars (somehow I don't think that the Curiosity craft will find it). 
Maybe your visitors wanted you to think that they were from the underground city of Marconi and Tesla?
An Emissary from the great men themselves???
Perhaps some members of this fringe group think this is really just part of a dis-information program from our invisible, imperceptible
(Alien? Robot? Atlantean? Templars? Masonic?) Evil Overlords...  I wonder if they know where the Holy Grail or the Philosopher's Stone is?
Perhaps Steve Jobs just moved to the secret research center (on the Moon, or Mars), and the pancreatic cancer was just a sham?
I could go on with this research, but I have an urgent appointment with Alice and The Mad Hatter for a Tea Party.
It's thru the looking glass and at the second star on the right...  See ya there <g>.
Really? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
I would be curious what your wife might make, professionally speaking, of some of these guys that have
dedicated decades of their lives to making these video tapes and cheap self published tracts in these dubious fields.
During Wilhelm Reich's court case the Psychiatrists described him as having delusions of grandiosity, with paranoia..



End of  Roy's Letter




Few  words about Dr Roy:
Brilliant sceptical, traditional conservative,  traceable to the bureau with his  approach to science.
I'm proud of being his friend. Roy and I we have  different opinions and  approaches  he is against I'm pro
but in  many other areas of science we are in line.
We do not fight we talk.





Wesley


GeoFusion

Hi guyz :)

Wesley ,
thank you for your post and links.

gyulasun,

I already done something similar with Flyback and  simple circuit.
3 videos

1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1SP9nMVWec

2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3hU5CCBt5k

3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRdG4_BkxPI

cheerz~

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: stivep on February 29, 2016, 09:44:42 PM
It is important  to also have sceptical  view at things around.

My middle name is skepticism. 8)

So looking e.g. at this Ruslan video, upon first sight it looks real. No hidden wires anywhere to see.

But then, who says that no one has retouched that video by means of a video editing program? There could be a hot wire leading to the device as thick as my thumb, we will never see anything suspicious if someone has removed it frame by frame from that video. Sounds far-fetched?

Maybe I'm just too skeptical. ::)

Hoppy

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on March 01, 2016, 08:54:23 AM
My middle name is skepticism. 8)

So looking e.g. at this Ruslan video, upon first sight it looks real. No hidden wires anywhere to see.

But then, who says that no one has retouched that video by means of a video editing program? There could be a hot wire leading to the device as thick as my thumb, we will never see anything suspicious if someone has removed it frame by frame from that video. Sounds far-fetched?

Maybe I'm just too skeptical. ::)

Why would you expect to see hidden wires when they are hidden. C'mon, lets get some common sense into this next circle of discussion.  ::)