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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Acca

Wesley.................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Your friends letter is a Shocker !!!!

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I am very sorry as this video is in Russian as well as Akula 0083 comments !!


I am very happy today !! Long live Akula0083 !!!
                                         

WoW!!!!!!  breaking the bonds of oppression through being able to get over past history...   !!!!!!!!!!!!!


The announcement of the creation of a global wave of trade union, Ilya Tesla, Roman Karnouhov (Akula0083)


Объявление о создании профсоюза Глобальная Волна, Илья Тесла, Роман Карноухов (Акула0083)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2yLly3VVRI

Golobal Wave  is RUSSIA...

Acca...



p.s...



Being Polish I have to dis-trust RUSSIA, however all Russian people are GOOD !!! (the evil ones are here in Poland too..) ...










Acca

 Golbal Wave post...

Russian WAR machine and the Kremlin flag...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCs3kjMru64


Acca..



These people are serious and reality bites...


and the message is, if the Russians get the the FREE ENERGY DEVICE they will have better weapons !!!!!


it SUCKS for the Polish people .... next door....

gyulasun

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on February 29, 2016, 09:00:24 AM
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Now the next comes and try to convince me that my conclusions according to my experiments are wrong.

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Dear Zeitmaschine,

you wrote:  "Now the next comes and try to convince me that my conclusions according to my experiments are wrong."

Well I had no bad or convincing intentions with my comments. I thought what you described and showed a schematic on the circuit could be explained by normal science, that is all  (and I mean here the sparks which occur when you create the gap at the place you showed in the schematic).
My capacitor example was just that, an example to reveal what capacitance a certain piece of wire may have with respect to its enviroment, this can be ground surface, larger sized objects or even our body, etc.
Earlier you wrote here: http://overunity.com/13721/energy-from-the-ground-self-powered-generator-by-barbosa-and-leal/msg427675/#subject_427675 that "It works also without the antenna, but then the spark is not that strong."   In my view, this could confirm my comment on the capacitive voltage division and I did not know about your post in 2014 or of your video when I commented. Again, I am not forcing this to you, just my thought.   8)

I agree with several of your thoughts on ionization from the HV, etc.  I agree that the sparks are very spectacular in your video circuit when you were 'sparking' from the 1.5-3 uF capacitor via the series diodes.
The big question is to learn how much voltage remains in the capacitor which is actually feeding the spark and also how much current is flowing in the wire that leads to the sparking end? The 506 V resting voltage in the capacitor could be a starting value to learn about the initial stored energy in it (or rather its peak to peak value) and then you could check the current, perhaps as an AC voltage drop with  the scope across a series small value non-wirewound resistor inserted in the wire. Then this 'sparking' power could be estimated and compared to the DC input draw/increase (remember the spark surrent comes via the 6 series diodes i.e. half wave current and voltage). I know such measurements when continuous sparks are involved are very problematic and of course you decide to explore this. Use utmost care not burn the scope or any meter.

I think the spectacular sparks are provided from the low ESR value 1.5-3 uF capacitor which is continually charged up from the 234 V inverter output due to the 50 Hz (near) resonant series LC current (L is the HV transformers series input coils and C is the 1.5-3 uF capacitor). Again, this is my opinion, you do not need to accept it at all and do not get angry with me... 
The load on the output of the inverter i.e. the low AC impedance of the series LC circuit is nearly constant towards the inverter, more or less regardless of your taking away some charge from the C member of the series LC circuit. I mention this because you wrote that in this case the fuse did not blow, while in case of shorting directly the HV output of the transformer the fuse blew.   

On your question: "Of course - as I mentioned above - we do not need a spark, a spark is counter-productive (self-defeating). We just need ionization. So what does your calculation say about the experiment without the spark but just ionization?"

Unfortunately, I do not get what you would like to calculate, please be more specific. And try to provide data for your question if possible.

Regarding your question on Guntis's drawings, the left hand side drawing may represent (say) a vacuum filled glass 'container', say a vacuum diode (and no filament to emit electrons) and if you apply a certain value of DC voltage as indicated with + and - contact symbols, then only a very tiny leakage current is able to flow between the contacts, depending on the amplitude of the applied voltage but let's assume that the voltage is low enough not to cause any spark yet. And then you can apply a trigger pulse from the outside of the glass container onto the indicated trigger electrode with respect to the negative contact: this can 'ignite' current flow between the positive and negative contacts by creating a certain EM field inside the container, this is what I can tell you on that. The container may be filled also with some noble gas of course.
Regarding the right hand side drawing, it is indicated to be an equivalent circuit for the left hand side srawing, i.e. it is like a bifilar coil symbol (maybe that of Tesla patent Coil for electromagnets style) but the two coils are connected with a series capacitor. I have not seen this latter equivalent circuit yet. IT would be good to learn Gunter's explanation on it.

I will try to answer your newer circuit with the parallel LC circuit later on  tomorrow.

@ Geofusion

Thanks for the video links, will have time to watch them also tomorrow, bare with me.

Gyula

stivep

Quote from: Acca on March 01, 2016, 05:46:15 PM
Wesley.................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your friends letter is a Shocker !!!!
Yes Dr Roy, is this way and I see it as benefit to my work. Friendly hand sceptical opposing in science , but helping a lot.
He is probably bored thinker, and he hopes that I  will be able to  entertain him with some revelations, (however not easily accepted)
It is like: Wesley show me what you have?
let's see what it is worth?

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Quote from: Acca on March 01, 2016, 05:46:15 PM
video is in Russian as well as Akula 0083 comments !!
I am very happy today !! Long live Akula0083 !!!                                   
WoW!!!!!!  breaking the bonds of oppression through being able to get over past history...   !!!!!!!!!!!!!
The announcement of the creation of a global wave of trade union, Ilya Tesla, Roman Karnouhov (Akula0083)
Объявление о создании профсоюза Глобальная Волна, Илья Тесла, Роман Карноухов (Акула0083)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2yLly3VVRI
Golobal Wave  is RUSSIA...
Some comments;
Not everything goes so easy out there in that " Akula and others union." By creating this union Akula hopes that Ilia will be able to repeat his experience with his 1.1kW device.
But I see in here hidden goal of Akula.
(Of Course - if I'm right)
Akula possibly wants Ilia to solve some of Akula's problems. namely  geo-dependence of his device and instability  of the system that makes every attempt to repeat experiment uncertain til it works.
Also that is not  much  given that Akulas  device prolongs to work for desired period of time. (Mostly malfunction will happen with overheated elements )
So from russian videos at Global Wave site:
3 weeks and no much progress.
Akula blames  Ilia "Tesla" for  being to slow.
Ilia is in Moscow ( Global Wave location ) in place with empty walls where  he says  he had to use "his contacts" to get  oscilloscope and some other equipment including benches to start  any work.



From Akula comments in discussion you did not lose anything..
think of it this way:
I Wesley write very much now information that is, in no way  educational and if I did not  write anything in this post  there would be no loss to FE community,
so is Akula.


The only difference is that I'm somewhat  entertaining you guys and Akula is struggling to keep any image  at all from whatever  is left.
He gain the trust of "hopers" ( - old English: hope-rs) as his device looks  real.
However Akula  refused by means of not advancing  further my  offer to make trip to Kazakhstan and to make it once and for all at  no doubt.
The biggest problem  I see here is that I repeated many times that no money can corrupt me .
So in that corrupted Russian world I'm the least  expected person.
If Akula device works as I think it is, than any technical problem  Akula may have  during presentation will be  damaging his image big time- I assume he thinks...


As far as Ruslan. I have posted once proposition to visit Ruslan in Riga. It was  last year.
Ruslan response was:
I'm going to have big  presentation  and Wesley will be there as well.

Till now   no news from Ruslan...........




Quote from: Acca on March 01, 2016, 05:46:15 PM[/size]
Being Polish I have to dis-trust RUSSIA, however all Russian people are GOOD !!! (the evil ones are here in Poland too..) ...
You are on the right  track.
Interesting is  that analyzing your conclusion  brings me to my experience  with Russians.
It is impossible to explain to them that their perception  in regards to very much objective and  unbiased, reality at social and  political  division  of life- simply does not exists. Russians are simply "zombied", ( zombie-d), to impossible  level - swimming in  ocean of lies .
So that smart  and educated nation is a perfect Putin's mechanism ready to die for Putin if needed.
Russia is the country of  brains- the unshined diamonds and oppression. However if you ask them they will be mostly opposing any  value to that truth.
Even more than that, - they will likely become aggressive.
Sort of like  the ants in that closed glass box. They can see something that is outside of that box ,  but Putin  is making explanation  of  what is out there.
Some good food that is thrown inside the glass box, from time to time by the Free Outside Western World  is activating  watchdogs of Putin Terror Propaganda inside the box.




Wesley

Zeitmaschine

Quote from: gyulasun on March 01, 2016, 06:33:33 PM
you wrote:  "Now the next comes and try to convince me that my conclusions according to my experiments are wrong."

Well I had no bad or convincing intentions with my comments. I thought what you described and showed a schematic on the circuit could be explained by normal science, that is all

Dear gyulasun, 8)

describing and explaining by normal science does not rule out that it could be the Kapanadze/Stepanov principle. In fact those devices have to be »normal« science, but that science is not public so far.

This whole subject looks to me like one walking through a labyrinth and each time he comes close to the exit another one pushes him in the wrong direction so he then has to walk the labyrinth a second time and a third time, and so on.

Quote from: gyulasun on March 01, 2016, 06:33:33 PM
Earlier you wrote here: http://overunity.com/13721/energy-from-the-ground-self-powered-generator-by-barbosa-and-leal/msg427675/#subject_427675 that "It works also without the antenna, but then the spark is not that strong."   In my view, this could confirm my comment on the capacitive voltage division and I did not know about your post in 2014 or of your video when I commented. Again, I am not forcing this to you, just my thought.

Then I have a simple question for you: Since you are writing a lot in the Dally thread, and this suggests you accept this free energy effect somehow as true, what do you think is the very basic principle of the Kapanadze and Stepanov devices?

I think the basic principle is ionization. Although we can argue, ionization of what? A simple wire? A coil? A capacitor? Or has it to be some special material? It can't be too special though, because one should be able to stumble over it by chance.

Quote from: gyulasun on March 01, 2016, 06:33:33 PM
I agree with several of your thoughts on ionization from the HV, etc.  I agree that the sparks are very spectacular in your video circuit when you were 'sparking' from the 1.5-3 uF capacitor via the series diodes.

Actually the point here is that it sparks with high current and low voltage and at the same time it sparks with high voltage and low current. So low voltage can spark a large gap where normally high voltage is needed.

Quote from: gyulasun on March 01, 2016, 06:33:33 PM
On your question: "Of course - as I mentioned above - we do not need a spark, a spark is counter-productive (self-defeating). We just need ionization. So what does your calculation say about the experiment without the spark but just ionization?"

Unfortunately, I do not get what you would like to calculate, please be more specific. And try to provide data for your question if possible.

I would like to calculate the ionization. It separates positive and negative charges, as I see this. Hence the question, what is responsible for those charges (separated or not)? Where is the negative charge, an electron has, coming from? Can we perhaps do something with this charge, except moving it around in a wire by force? Could we perhaps make use of an unknown quantum mechanical effect?

Quote from: gyulasun on March 01, 2016, 06:33:33 PM
Regarding your question on Guntis's drawings, the left hand side drawing may represent (say) a vacuum filled glass 'container'

Yes. Left hand side could be an ionized flashbulb and right hand side looks like a resonant LC circuit and this suggests that we should somehow ionize that coil/capacitor construction too. So it's a hint from someone who allegedly knows the principle of work of the Kapanadze device.

Quote from: gyulasun on March 01, 2016, 06:33:33 PM
IT would be good to learn Gunter's explanation on it.

No explanation. He thinks free energy could give too much power to sinister forces on this planet. So he prefers to speak in riddles. >:(

Quote from: gyulasun on March 01, 2016, 06:33:33 PM
I will try to answer your newer circuit with the parallel LC circuit later on  tomorrow.

Here you should kindly keep in mind that the resonant LC circuit is for 100% sure part of the Stepanov device, which for 100% sure is real, which for 100% sure works on the same basic principle like the Kapanadze device, which almost for 100% sure works on the same basic principle like the Moray device (1936). If it would unexpectedly turn out that all theses devices are fake (including Tesla's car 1931), then this would be even more strange than if they were real all together.

So simply trying to explain that parallel LC circuit by ordinary science will lead to nothing except to have to walk a new round in the labyrinth. :(

The second main part - by the way - of the Stepanov device is a frequency doubler (diode bridge, resistor, capacitor), and the third main part is a three-phase transformer. That's it. And it seems all parts are »off the shelf«, nothing special made.

Best regards