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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Zeitmaschine

Quote from: SeaMonkey on March 02, 2016, 05:49:09 PM
How much DC power produced will depend upon
how close the circuit is to a commercial AM
broadcast station or stations.
Quote from: gyulasun on March 02, 2016, 07:04:29 PM
On your Free Electricity Out of Thin Air circuit references I think the followings: Yes they work and are able to produce some uW or mW output power, depending on the antenna lenght and location. The received energy comes from radio (AM and FM) and / or television broadcast or mobile phone central stations and from any appliance that creates so called "electric smog" like a plasma globe/bulb etc.

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I do not consider these circuits to be free energy circuits.

Then could you perhaps kindly explain to the readers why that energy CANNOT come from the Earth's electric field, or some other natural electric field? In that case it would be free energy indeed.

It is exactly this conventional thinking that leads to nothing on the search for Tesla's, Moray's, Kapanadze's, Stepanov's principle of work.

Quote from: gyulasun on March 02, 2016, 07:04:29 PM
This circuit is the same like you feed a parallel LC circuit from a signal generator via a coupling capacitor at the resonant LC frequency: this does not load the output of the generator. The scope at the output will surely measure the stepped down voltage across the coupling coil as you show in the drawing. So there is magnetic field in the core of the transformer, no problem.

Nice to read that there is »no problem« with that. A magnetic field (for free) that does not load the generator (the power source). We now just need a method to get a stronger magnetic field.


Quote from: gyulasun on March 02, 2016, 07:04:29 PM
Well, sorry but I do not know the basic principle, I wish I knew, then I would inform you or anyone else on this forum. I can agree with your guess as it is ionization.

Then maybe we should exercise more what is called »thinking outside of the box«. We will never find the basic principle inside of the box.

Quote from: gyulasun on March 02, 2016, 07:04:29 PM
Sorry but I am not good at chemistry.

Could be easily that this is the missing link. As you can read at The cosmic start of lightning: »Even though lightning is a common phenomenon, the exact mechanism triggering a lightning discharge remains elusive«.

So not even science seems to know for sure how lightning (means high voltage, sparks, ionization) works and what it can cause. Therefore ...

Quote from: gyulasun on March 02, 2016, 07:04:29 PM
My answers may sound to you as if I want you to walk a new round in the labyrinth again...  but I hope you understand this is not my intention.

... I'm surely not going to walk a new round in the labyrinth, because I think I'm very close to the exit already (if there is one at all). But if anyone wishes to take a new round through the labyrinth then I will not withhold them. Have fun. ;D

Regards

Hoppy

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on March 03, 2016, 01:10:24 AM

Then maybe we should exercise more what is called »thinking outside of the box«. We will never find the basic principle inside of the box.


The problem for you at the moment is that you are jumping out of your box into some other peoples boxes.  ;)

Zeitmaschine

And those boxes could explode like an atomic bomb. If you never hear from me again then maybe that explosion blew me out of the labyrinth successfully. Don't know yet. :o

Hopefully ...

gyulasun

Quote from: Zeitmaschine on March 03, 2016, 01:10:24 AM
Then could you perhaps kindly explain to the readers why that energy CANNOT come from the Earth's electric field, or some other natural electric field? In that case it would be free energy indeed. 

Hi Zeitmaschine,

Imagine that all the radio, tv and any other RF, HF transmitter could be switched off at a given moment in every country and you would be left with an enviroment fully free from any man-made EM sources. Do you think that the circuit shown in the video you gave a link ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYysBEwA6w ) would still produce the shown 13 V or so DC output?

My answer is no, the meter would read zero because the electric 'noise' or static noise (not man-made) always present in the air has so small amplitude the rectifier diodes used in that circuit simply cannot detect. When a stormy weather is coming the electric 'activity' in the air increases and the overall electric 'noise' amplitude increases manyfold, (ionization), the diodes with their 0.6 V (Si) or 0.1 V (Ge) thresholds will be able to detect them and steer them into those capacitors.

There are radiations coming from space of course like from quasars, stars, suns etc but it is extremely unlikely that these radiations could be detected with the diode types used in those schematics. You need to devise a totaly new method to capture such radiations efficiently, you need to know the frequency ranges involved (xray, visible light etc).


  gyulasun wrote: 
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This circuit is the same like you feed a parallel LC circuit from a signal generator via a coupling capacitor at the resonant LC frequency: this does not load the output of the generator. The scope at the output will surely measure the stepped down voltage across the coupling coil as you show in the drawing. So there is magnetic field in the core of the transformer, no problem. 

Zeitmaschine answered:
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Nice to read that there is »no problem« with that. A magnetic field (for free) that does not load the generator (the power source). We now just need a method to get a stronger magnetic field.

Remember, you used your oscilloscope to see the induced voltage across the coil coupled to the parallel LC resonant tank circuit, so you had only the high impedance probe as the load, this did not reflect back to the source. Just try to apply useful loads instead of the scope probe and see what happens in that setup. On "no problem" I meant again that your shown setup was explainable again by normal science (unfortunately), and whenever something is explainable by known science it involves conversation of energy in most (but not all) cases.

I am pleased you think you are very close to the exit of the labyrinth, please keep it up.

Greetings,  Gyula