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Overunity Machines Forum



Symetric Magnet Motor Idea

Started by CombinedTech, June 30, 2009, 06:44:26 PM

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CombinedTech

Does any body know of a cheap device that can measure magnetic forces?

My shielding plates have to get propperly alligned in all dimensions, but its difficult to do so with no measuring device.

Low-Q

Quote from: 0c on June 30, 2009, 07:15:14 PM
Just my 2 cents. I think asymmetry is your friend. Try something like 5 interior rotor magnets, 8 shield windows, and 13 external stator magnets. I don't know whether it will do what you want, but it has to be better than having all those magnets hit the sticky spot at the same time.
I have also thinked that asymetric setup works better, but you achieve only one thing: Less cogging.
Less cogging results also in less force for each given lineup between stator and rotor. So the average torque will be the same in any case. When it comes to pure permanentmagnet motor, it will not work anyway. Also the shield will affect not only the stator or the rotor, but both at the same time. So the net result will be the very same.

I have tried to imagine several setups, but it allways ends up in "Taking = giving" - or force equals counterforce. I think that a magnet motor design allways will be a dead end, but even with all these negative thinking I have about it, I never stop trying :-)))

Vidar

Ergo

Quote from: Low-Q on July 01, 2009, 09:02:43 AM
I think that a magnet motor design allways will be a dead end, but even with all these negative thinking I have about it, I never stop trying :-)))

This tells you have self-criticism and it's a clear sign of a healthy mind.
Every second "free energy" inventer is self-delusional when facing the fact that his
magic overunity idea wasn't overunity at all. It can be hard to face reality when having
spent a good portion of ones life on building a useless contrapment.

jibbguy

Interesting cheap self-build unit..

http://www.instructables.com/id/Magno-Sniffer-Magnetic-Sniffer-Probe-Whistler-Thi/

Here's a hall-effect from Steorn for around 300 Euros. It has data logging via USB as standard, and a "2-D" tip. It reads both Gauss and Polarity, but requires the interfaced PC to work, and read the data (probably the cheapest out there with these features).

http://www.steorn.com/steornlab/hall-probe/


lumen

It is better to build something that does not work, than build nothing and forever believe it will.