stop saying "it cannot be done !"

[innovation_station]

Hi are you taking to me or to ED , actually its not a question of believing you can prove it to your self , he only showed us how ...

The man never said "it cannot be done !" he built a castle alone and never had to pay for electricity ...

Mark

T talking to ED lol   

he sure was 1 hell of a smart man was he not mk1.... 

i bet tesla was no fool eather ....

ist!

[TechStuf]

It can't be done...





lol

[infringer]

aye men to the energy gods

[BEP]

And regarding the monkeys, that is a really bad analogy.  There is the assumption that you have a working gun, and the mechanism is simple to fire.

Now take the same gun and put a simple combination lock on the mechanism, say with 3 digits, from 1-10.  In theory, it would only take 1000 combinations to unlock the trigger and fire the gun.  But yet I bet you could give 1000 monkeys 1000 years, and they would not be able to do it (they would simply stop messing with the gun after a few minutes and never bother again).

Fire was discovered. Was it not?

[WilbyInebriated]

You should probably read TK's post again.

And regarding the monkeys, that is a really bad analogy.  There is the assumption that you have a working gun, and the mechanism is simple to fire.

Now take the same gun and put a simple combination lock on the mechanism, say with 3 digits, from 1-10.  In theory, it would only take 1000 combinations to unlock the trigger and fire the gun.  But yet I bet you could give 1000 monkeys 1000 years, and they would not be able to do it (they would simply stop messing with the gun after a few minutes and never bother again).

You are probably referring to the old monkeys, typewriter, and works of shakespeare theorem:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

Actually, if you assume a monkey that will actually diligently type at random, not get tired or bored, and does not need to sleep or take breaks, the odds are against you.'

Apparently, simply to type out the word "banana" on a 50 key typewriter is a one in 15 million chance, so even to get a simple sentence correct would probably exceed the time we have here on earth.

I guess what I am saying is that monkey are better off doing other things that trying to write shakespeare, and maybe so are we.  Additionally because there is not even a 1 in 15 million shot.  The odds of 3+3 ever equaling 7 is exactly zero.

i think your calculations on odds are a bit off utilitarian. i wonder if you'd bet the farm (that was classic by the way) again?

http://www.ted.com/talks/brian_cox_on_cern_s_supercollider.html
"saturn 5 rockets and sputnik and dna and literature and science... these are the things hydrogen atoms do when given 13.7 billion years... absolutely remarkable."

i think you underestimate monkeys.