Overunity.com Archives is Temporarily on Read Mode Only!



Free Energy will change the World - Free Energy will stop Climate Change - Free Energy will give us hope
and we will not surrender until free energy will be enabled all over the world, to power planes, cars, ships and trains.
Free energy will help the poor to become independent of needing expensive fuels.
So all in all Free energy will bring far more peace to the world than any other invention has already brought to the world.
Those beautiful words were written by Stefan Hartmann/Owner/Admin at overunity.com
Unfortunately now, Stefan Hartmann is very ill and He needs our help
Stefan wanted that I have all these massive data to get it back online
even being as ill as Stefan is, he transferred all databases and folders
that without his help, this Forum Archives would have never been published here
so, please, as the Webmaster and Creator of these Archives, I am asking that you help him
by making a donation on the Paypal Button above.
You can visit us or register at my main site at:
Overunity Machines Forum



lead acid / lithium ion OR capacitor batteries off the shelf ??

Started by powercat, July 12, 2009, 07:24:18 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

powercat

Hi Doug1
I think you could find this information online
maybe not as much fun as looking inside yourself

They are beginning to use them inEV's but only as a booster pack for initial acceleration
the problem is you need so many of them to run a car entirely.
The new nano tech ones are on the way and this will solve the problem
http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2008/january9/nanowire-010908
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16768-atomic-construction-yields-punchier-power-store.html

cat
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

Doug1

Thanks Cat
Structurally that looks like a photovoltiac. Which is another pet. While i have not yet tried it,one day it popped into my head that using magnesium powder and aluminum powder as a fuel would vaporize TIO2 and leave some traces of itself.Perhaps with a polarizing magnetic field or the introduction of narrow band light emission on or around the subtrate it would layer itself correctly as the mix of vapors well up onto a conductive backing. If nothing ells the toxic light show would be interesting if not entertaining. The cap structure in your pictures could be a secondary effect to shoot for if the first does not work. how do you figure out how much cap you need to equal a given amount of storage in a battery?

powercat

Quote from: Doug1 on July 22, 2009, 12:05:06 PM
how do you figure out how much cap you need to equal a given amount of storage in a battery?

ideally I would like 1000Ah anyway I asked this question on another forum and got this answer

To answer your question - yes it is possible but, expensive. The formula to figure this out is:

(Vmin + Vmax)/2 * F / 3600 = Ah

Vmin & Vmax - upper and lower voltage. This is the voltage range that your device has to work in. Vmin is the voltage that your device dies at, my GPS stops at 2 volts.

F - Farads

3600 - coulomb, a unit of electrical measure.

Ah - Amp hours (/1000= mAh)


Running the problem backward:

1000Ah * 3600 / 12V = 300,000 Farads

The voltage was for a common 12V battery since you do not specify what voltage you need.
Michael C /UltraCapacitors.org
END COPY
cat
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

Doug1

Requirements would be 24 volts 208 amph 300 would be better. hi-low 27 volts< 20 volts dc.
One of these would be equal to one lead acid battery. If the cell can be good for 300,000 cycles that would be make the high price worth considering. 

Doug1

17280000 farad ?
The wheel would need to reinvented, too many caps.