Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

[electricme]

@DreamThinkBuild,

Thankyou for describing the method you use to prepare the quartz for your EB cells, I will give that a go to, I have a old towel here I can use.

I have noticed all the different effects when the EB cell is in the ground, in the air or inside my house.

It does seem to be influenced by the earth, picking up earth currents which as you say recharges it, but I have noticed the lack of moisture has a huge effect on the amount of voltage I can measure.

I had my DMM connected all the time to a cell, then I removed the cell, and kept an eye on its output, I even took the same cell up onto my roof, to see any changes, there weren't any.

But it was a different story when the scope was connected to it, but I had to descend the ladder to look at the scope each time I moved the cell to a different position, the basic wave altered.

I don't know what those readings were so I will replicate them tomorrow and post them here.

At the moment my goal is to get 24v DC or higher out of a series EB cell arrangement, this is achievable but I need more copper pipe to do this, I have Heep's more zinc nails.

Today, I have more tidying up to do in my workshop area, I need to build a new steel workbench and transfer the bench grinder, drill press and steel cutoff wheel to it, along with my heavy duty vice.
Then after this is done, I need to make a stubblefield winding jig.
I have managed to locate some steel wire covered in a thin layer of green plastic, but this is a long way away ahead of me right now.

This will take a few more days.

I will take some more scope shots of the EB and post them shortly.

jim

[jeanna]

I guess I posted my results on the wrong thread today.
Please havalook at joes old eb thread.

I found a wallwart and took it apart and tried to connect the very short leads to the EER and the longer 110v side to the scope.
The connection was very hard to keep tight because the wires were too short, and forget the extra 220uH inductor which would help. But I did manage to get 1.55v.

this means I can capture the ac component and use it in a transformer and get higher values like the secondary of the joule thief. Horay!

I need to fix the details, again... flaky connections all over the place!
But this is a very encouraging start.

jeanna

[jeanna]

I must have pushed the 10x probe button yesterday, because I have not been able to get more than 155mv from the EER with or without additional inductors.
It seems counterintuitive to me, but I am not getting a transformer effect from the wires to the probes.
However, if I use an inductor in line with one of those lines to the probes, I can increase the mv by 50-100% It is still not very much.
I can add a transformer to this and it will slightly increase the increase.

I tried a few things today.
I used a great joule thief toroid and connected it to the 2 eb's, because I needed more connectors.
I did not see a higher voltage, but maybe a higher like much higher frequency. It was impossible to read the waves were so clustered. But then in another moment, it appeared as usual.

It is all pretty inconclusive.
I thought I should post this in case someone else was thinking of trying it. OR if 2 of us did try it and got the same results.

One more thing.
I have noticed that often the wave will start out much lower then soon get jigher and stronger.
I am starting to wonder if the scope is pushing volts into the wires and then the increase is being returned.
I should stick a battery on the leads then see...

OK done for now.

jeanna

[kamax]

I have noticed that often the wave will start out much lower then soon get jigher and stronger.
I am starting to wonder if the scope is pushing volts into the wires and then the increase is being returned.

I have many different eart cells pots and if i read mA:
-copper+zinc: mA go down to a stable value
-copper+alu: mA go up to a stable value

Anf if mA are going down, voltage are going up.
If mA are going up, voltage are going down.

The cells change his value while reading mA, i suppose it's because it's like a shortcut between + and -

[jdcmusicman]

Finally quit raining so I could get some readings on my eb's ..

In ground :
Copper/aluminum  .58 vdc .06 ma
Stainless steel/aluminum .56 vdc .04 ma
Stainless steel/aluminum with alum rod inside ss pipe .73 vdc .16 ma

Out of ground in planters ..
SS/aluminum .87 vdc .55 ma
SS/aluminum .90 vdc .50 ma ..

These things have been planted for a few weeks now ,I am happy to see that the readings are staying pretty uniform ..

One thing that is puzzling me is the fact that the 2 ss/alum in the planters have the same dirt and are done the same way as the 2 ss/alum that are in the ground but have higher readings ....
I can't wait till I can get my hands on a scope ..
This stuff is so interesting so simple yet so complex as to figuring what is actually taking place ....
I do know that these outside has outlasted any galvanic style battery i have made ,so I am guessing its more than galvanic reactions taking place
..
well anyway , just wanted to post some readings , if the rain holds off I will be trying to get readings day to day ...

Thanks Jdcmusicman