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Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

Started by Pirate88179, July 14, 2009, 09:40:58 PM

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jeanna

Hi cosmicfarmer,

I had the very same problem only with less than 4 diodes (I do not recall) all I got was 0.359v so you are way ahead of me with 0.6v
Anyway 0.6v is what the earth gives depending on the probes.
I am not talking about the 40 lb mag block and 2 fluted carbon rods here  ;), just some probes in the ground.

Do you know exactly what Dr Stiffler has for his arrangement?

I concur with tishatsang's way to find the best place in your back yard. (after you have learned what you can from Bill's earth site.)

Do you know how to make a simple galvanometer?

If you do maybe someone else does not, so here goes:

Start with a cheap but biggish 2 inch diameter compass.
Using some RS red mag wire, wrap about 60 turns around the north south line of the compass.
You can't get this to be straight, so you overlap to the right at the north and coming up from the bottom overlap to the left on the south. Either direction of overlap works, just be consistent. You will end up with a thick middle.

Be sure to leave longish like 18 inches for leads and , of course, sand the ends. You will need to add alligator clips to this too, but you will see a movement when there is some voltage.

The problem with this is the ac that rides atop the dc, so there will be some fluttering. Pay no attention to that for this. (I think)

This kind of instrument is exactly what NS would have used. (not for dowsing, but for seeing the voltage)

It is verrry sensitive and if you touch it to the ends of a battery you will see.
The needle whips around hundreds of times before it settles to one side or the other, always the same angle for the same amount of current going through the wires.
One way for pos other way for neg.
It is the original analog volt meter.

I am glad to see you around again.

jeanna

Pirate88179

Cosmicfarmer:

I don't know enough about Dr. Stiffler's latest work to be of much help here.  I did just want to point out that, if the charge you are getting on that big cap is anything like what I am getting, you will have a bunch of amps in there as well.  I'll bet if you took that cap at .642 volts and linked it to a JT circuit, you could light an led for weeks.

Your set-up is quite different from mine so this may not be correct.  I really love these big caps.

Bill
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electricme

@tishatang,

As I mentioned yesterday I would get involved with your MOT in the ground experiment.

I got a MOT from the MOT stack (12 of em, + more outside) and dusted the cobwebs off it.
Spent a couple of hours outside looking for redundant extension leads, found a few, cut the sockets and plugs off them.

Soldered the ends of the extension leads to the MOT, put the MOT in 3 plastic shopping bags, dug a hole and planted it.
Threw the ends of the extension leads through the "open" kitchen window, (powered by its own car electric wiper motor (bragging rights lol)), then dragged theends to the work bench. Put 6 small alligator clips, one to each wire.

Here are the pickies, the explanations and questions are later on.

1737, 1740, 1742= MOT being turned into something it is not supposed to be and stuck in de dirt.

1743= 1st time I hooked the MOT to the BWD115 CRO, lots of activity seen, it's all frequency folks, 2 DMMs showed NO voltage, not even mv.

1744= Stuck a 1N4004 diode in series with the output and got this.

There will be 2 TWV next, see you at the flicks. :D
jim
 
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

electricme

@all

Its video time folks

1st TWV showing the waveform as I saw it the first time I connected the scope up to the underground MOT.

Lots of activity here, haven't got a clue to what is causing it, I checked the scope, and the green line went horizontal so scope is OK. I recommend someone else do the same to verify this result.

jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.

electricme

@all,
2nd video time

Here is the same output, but I placed a 1N4004 diode in series with the output.

All the spikes you will notice are upward, there is a lot of wobbling going on between spikes.

If I reversed the diode, the spikes inverted.

Still no voltage whatsoever.

OK tishatang, whats next! ;D

jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.