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Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

Started by Pirate88179, July 14, 2009, 09:40:58 PM

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IotaYodi

With 7 of them you should have had around 5 volts. You can also use lacquer spray paint instead of tape if wanted. Also liquid tape will work better as its made for underground splicing and doesnt deteroriate as fast as tape. If you wrap a small plastic piece on the bottom of the pipe leaving a gap for the water to run out it will keep it damp as the water stays on top of the plastic. I think when you are using an external cathode the copper pipe has to have the dirt packed down good. From what Im thinking its better to have the cathode in the middle of the pipe with a close tolerance between the two. But maybe not. This would seem to make it act like a one layer capacitor. Earth capacitors have higher ratings. BUT!! I noticed that DreamThinkBuilders cathode was bolted on and insulated. Im curious if he packed dirt in it first before putting it into the ground. If not he had some good voltages if it was a single piece and not part of a series.
I fashioned mine this way. It saved clips plus there is no dissimilar metal problems.  I dont recommend all thread or any blunt metal. Its a pain if you want close tolerances driving it down the center of the copper. You could grind it down to make it easier if you have a grinder. 
What I know I know!
Its what I don't know that's a problem!

jeanna

This is  a pic of the NS#9 which is moist and in barely moist  ground with
the probe on the secondary and
the clip on the fe10.

I got no voltage reading from the secondary as usual. I actually want to remove the sleeve and wind it directly onto the primary. But for now, this is showing a good amount of activity and large spikes. well 29mv spikes.
This is still attached to the zinc nail etc as before, too.

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I will add a drawing of how this is hooked up. thousand words...

DreamThinkBuild

@IotaYodi, The center of the EB is empty, I didn't have any dirt in there. I wrapped the bottom portion of the copper pipe with saran wrap and did a measurement but had no voltage at all, so I'll have to fill it with dirt.

@Bill, That is a great chart I'll add those to my notes.

@Electricme, would it be possible to have a single negative pole and multiple positive poles? Since the copper pipe is isolated from the others by the tape. Place each copper pipe piece in a plastic ice cube tray filled with dirt and have the negative pole external? With all the lightning it hasn't been very good weather here to test the idea.

Pirate88179

I just tried a quick and dirty experiment just for the heck of it.  I strung about 20 feet of fine copper wire I salvaged from a monitor I took apart a while back from a tree in my front yard down to my EER (Earth Energy Receiver) set-up.  First, I tried it with the carbon rods and got hardly anything...then I hooked it to my meter and the mag. block.

Well here is the interesting thing I do not understand.  I also got almost nothing here as well but, since I had quickly burned off the insulation on the wire (it was like mag wire) I thought it might not be a clean connection so I reached over to hold it on the probe with my fingers.  As soon as I did...the DMM started climbing!!  In about 10 seconds it was up to 1/2 a volt. (.5 volt)  As soon as I removed my finger, it dropped down to almost nothing again.  I still thought it was a bad connection so I cleaned up the wire end better and still....same thing unless I held it, only then would it build up the volts.

I wonder if it is because anywhere I have read about the antenna systems with an earth ground set-up, they always used diodes, germanium diodes to be exact.  I happen to have about 20 of those here.  I wonder if my body was acting as a diode in the circuit somehow?

Most of the set-ups I have seen used about 100 feet of antenna (mag) wire so I did not expect much on this try anyway.  I will make a video of this if I get the time but, anyone have any theories as to why this might be?

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

jeanna

I guess since you were grounding the antenna, you were some kind of doide. The current from the wire/antenna and the meter both had to go through you to the ground?

What happened if you let go of the antenna? and you were just touching the meter?

I am thinking it could also be skin effect crossing you where the contact with the wire alone was not so good but through you it went right up to the antenna.

So, maybe not a diode but just a good connection?

jeanna