Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

[jeanna]

mw383

Welcome back  ,

When I worked in a backpacking store many years ago polypropylene was being used for dry inner socks.

Then later I had a source for webbing straps and polypropylene was a favorite el-cheapo alternative to nylon the companies would offer me.
So, polypropylene shoelaces might work.
If you can tell it from other materials by the feel of it (unmistakable) you can just go to a store.

jeanna

[electricme]

@All,

I have just made another TWV on the output from my probes and got something interresting this occasion.
I have seen this occur a few times but haven't caught it until now.
The whole wave form "jumps" larger for an instant then settles back down to what it look like before, (I was lucky today).

It happened just after 10:00 AM in Australia.

Jim

PS look for the tiny paperclip and click on it to see the tiny video (about 10 seconds)

[jeanna]

Hi jim,
I managed to get the plugin I need to see those 3gp's of yours.

Wow.
I have also seen a jump, but it did not come out as clearly as this. Very nice!

thanks for showing this,

jeanna

[tishatang]

Bill
The make/break (vibrating relay) described in the patent performs the same function as a spark gap, maybe better.  Sparks cause different dynamics and were used in first wireless communication.  An open spark gap will randomly spark when conditions are right.  A vibrating relay, you can control when it will open and close.  When the relay opens it creates sparks.

To separate three freqs, you can use a parallel res circuit (tank circuit) that tunes to the freq you want.  This is why I recommend getting some old var air caps and experimenting building parallel and series res circuits.  Instead of connecting your scope directly to the ground rods, you first have the signal go thru the res circuit. 

If you have one strong signal like the one shown in Jim's photo, make sure your res circuit is tunable around the freq of the signal.  Jim did not say the freq, but the scope should give a good idea of the freq.  Let us say it is 30Khz,  We want our res freq to be in the 30Khz range.  There are charts and formulas for calculating res freq.  If our var air cap is 355 pfd, we need an inductor size that will give 30Khz at res.  In simple terms we are using radio tuning techniques.  But we are tuning to the earth freqs and not the radio wave freqs. 

MW383
I don't think the material of the rod is that important.  Use what is on hand.  We are learning principles, not trying to maximize what is already working.   Where to put them will vary with each location, depending on earth energies.  I suggest using a very sensitive analogue meter if you have one.  Maybe a DDM will work but I do not like the delay of auto-ranging.  You do not get a smooth reading.  Or, build a galvanometer described in THE BOY ELECTRICIAN I referenced earlier.  This is simply a compass with about 50 turns of fine wire around it.  It is mounted on a block of wood with terminals to connect your leads to the fine wire.  Place one rod in the ground.  Attach a long lead to it and the other end to the meter.  Another lead from the meter to your second rod.  Walk around and poke the ground here and there looking for a reading on the meter.  The highest reading is where you want to put the second rod.

The var air caps are just for you all to experiment and get to learn about res circuits.  These are just above ground experiments using caps and inductors you happen to have on hand or get out of an old radio.  You might want to build a simple crystal radio to learn about tuning the circuit.  It is the same theory and method.  We are just applying it differently.

We can certainly get a small var air cap down low in freq using using an extra big inductor.  But this gets to be impractical because of physical size.  It will be easier to use an inductor and bury it as in an earth battery.  We can then add a large cap to it on the surface.  In this day of large caps, it should be easy to get to very low freqs of the earth.  Tuning will be more difficult however.

The bifilar wire shown in the patent has the copper wire and its insulation equal to the diameter of the bare wire.  Both outer diameters should be close to the same size to make wrapping easier and hold its form.  If you can find the old style fabric electrical tape, I would use it to make the insulation around the bolt.  It might be made of cotton?  Or, maybe old style white adhesive tape might be made of cotton you could use?  Stay away from plastic backed adhesive tape.  You can use these same  tapes to insulate between each layer of the windings.  I think cotton backed adhesive tapes are still out there somewhere?

You are still thinking along the lines that the process is a battery.  You are letting the patent description making you think it is a battery, electrolytes and all that other stuff about batteries.  It is not a battery.  The patent office made him call it a battery because they could not understand how it worked.  Even showing it place in a metal container with electrolyte.  The battery stuff was added to get the patent.  Do not let this confuse you.  The metal container has its place I will get to later.  For now we need to get results based on res circuit principles.  If we can't get resonance to work, then I am steering you all down the wrong path.

All
Maybe I am confusing you with trying to learn about res circuits on the surface instead of working with an inductor buried in the ground ala NS EB?  Perhaps it is a better idea for someone to volunteer to bury an old transformer in the ground and let us see what happens?  Or, wind a coil around an old bolt and bury it.  That person should have a scope so we can see volts and freq the coil or primary circuit picks up.  Any volunteers?  We will try and learn step by step as NS would have done to evolve the EB.  In other words, let us explore the earth as an inductor.  Not as a battery and not as a capacitor.

[freepow]

 :)hello everyone, I just made a small Stubblefield coil, core I used was 4 pieces of thick galv - wire taped together, i covered copper wire with a thin lining from inside of old pair of track pants or parachute pants, and iron wire wrapped along side of covered copper wire, length of turns about 6 inches, total of 1.5 layers, DMM leads to copper and iron wire, dry I got .6 -.7v and wet I got .74v and  1 mA, about the same when DMM connected to copper and core, just a small test one with not much current !
Is'nt this really just a battery when you wet it ??

Also I have found a site that sells double cotton covered copper wire !  Is this any good