Are any serious companies out there producing in line those HHO units or not???

[Yanni]

Hello all.

My name is Yanni and I am from Greece. I am new here and the reason I have became a member
is because your conversations in this forum are very interesting and I would like to be a part of it.

Most of you might have more experience in to this subject and I am sure must be most of you.

The past 4 months I am keep searching and trying to find information about HHO systems and how
they work and who is producing them. The reason I search is because I own an import company in Greece
and I see a lot of potential in this technology and I am interesting to start co-operation with a good company
that has the knowledge, have done their tests, their standing up behind their products with customer service,
technical support, parts, etc.
Well.... guess what? So far... nothing.
I am NOT a scientist, I am NOT a mechanic, neither chemist, etc.
I am just a simple guy that does business and he company has a good reputation in the Greek market since 1972.
So, in order to keep my good reputation name for my company I have to sell products that are SAFE and they do
what they advertised to do and nothing less, nothing more. Of course price matters as well.

Anyway... as I said so far I haven't seen or found any company that will make me believe that they are professionals
and they provide a good product with all the above.
The only thing I have seen so far is that those HHO kits, HHO generators, Water4Gas, Dry Cells, Wet Cells, or
whatever else you want to call them, are all look the same, and all are based on a standard design and they only
difference is that those individuals that produce them , only put a sticker with their "company" name and because they
have placed a sticker they think that became a company.
Common....
Please do NOT take my words wrong. I am really into this subject at the moment and I really give a HUGE credit
to all those that they try to make something really to work. I would love someone to tell me that there is somewhere
out there a company, a COMPANY with big letters and not "company".... that finally has the knowledge, have done
their tests, their standing up behind their products with customer service, technical support, parts, etc. and finally
have a PRODUCT to sale in the consumer and do what they advertise to do.

Can anyone point me at least one company?

Now.... because I have read some threads :D on this forum, I have seen somewhere taking about metals.
Even me that I am not a scientist, even I do not own a HHO kit (I REALLY WISH had one) that most of those
"companies" are using 316L SS plates. Some of those they use 304 SS plates.
Some of you they mention in here about Alloy 607 and about 904L metals.
To be honest, first time I hear about 607 and 904L.
Although, based on my research to find a company that produces those units and start reading more and more
about how the whole HHO concept works, I have find out (on my own) that there is a metal out there BETTER than
316L SS and I haven't seen anyone to use it.

Please correct me if I am wrong and please I mention this because there is the possibility for some of you what I will say
to be very helpful. Although there is the chance to be wrong because I am not an HHO guru guy.

That metal costs something between 304 and 316L SS price.
This metal is the....
445M2

Here are the links I have found and all the information about you all. And I would like to see some replies in order me to
understand better.

http://www.azom.com/Details.asp?ArticleID=4242
and
http://www.australwright.com.au/News/News.html
and
http://www.assda.asn.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=67&Itemid=93

Thank you all for your time and I am looking forward to see some replies.
And I apologize if I made some of you get bored.

       Regards,
  Yanni the Greek

[triffid]

Dear Yanni,thanks for the suggestion that 445m2 might do the trick.I have noticed that mostly those who sell HHO units to the public have still not grasped that dumping 12 volts into a single cell is a waste of energy(the wasted energy becomes heat causing the solution inside the cell to boil).Mostly you want stay around 1.25 volts per cell.So that means you hook up 6 cells in series you then get 2.0 volts per cell(still a little too much).So 12 volts /8 cells hooked up in series=1.5 volts per cell.This is brute force electrolysis.So it takes at least 8 cells to come close to the 1.25 volt limit I mentioned already.For really cheap metal to use for electrodes I would say try wire coathangers.They are cheap(sometimes free) and made out of iron which rusts in a baking soda water solution but it takes a really long time to eat them up(maybe 6 months).So mostly
the information out there is not too good to work with.You have to experiment a lot.I have seen homemade HHO units made out of 6-packs of mason jars on u-tube and feel that they are going in the right direction.But even then I am only talking about brute-force electrolysis of water using DC current.I did some high freq electrolysis experiments but reached an impasse for me.There are other promising(maybe) ways to break water down(like using just heat energy in the surrounding air).But as far as I know no one has come up with a  really good HHO unit for the public to buy yet.Triffid