Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts

[xenomorphlabs]

Hi xeno
Thanks for looking this up for me, i have seen a 0.05 10kv which may well fit the size we are looking at.

Almost finished gluing my first secondary together, i think the size is too big, i ended up 3.25 inches diameter DOH
Total Length 11.25 Inches with a 3 turn gap between each 20 turns.

I used 14swg wire for the coils, but think this is too thick compared to your photo's so i will make another secondary and try to aim for 3 inch outer coil dia using 16swg wire.

Dip meter showed res at 3.51Mhz using a 100pf cap for the 20 turn coil, I couldn't determine how accurate the cap was as i have 2 meters and each meter read differently.

To me the dimmer looks seperate in the clear photo and is on the end of the radioshack 12vdc to 125vac inverter , not sure if the bertonee transformer also had a dimmer built in, i have found very little info on this original transformer.

Shouldn't be too long before i'm also melting things 

Peter

The dimmer is an extra device attached to the side in the table device.
Have you considered Smith`s advice on quarter length proportions of the coils?
3.51 MHz ? Interesting. Good to see first concrete measurements rolling in.

[Yucca]

I have built two Don Smith devices.  I get readings of volts and amps on meter with one device (plasma globe), the other I got nothing but I didn't follow all Don's specs(dipole generator).  I know very little about electronics but feel Don's devices can be very powerful.  I remember him saying the more rapid the spark gets the closer the load matches the generator.  Or maybe Tesla said that.  He invented and patented a similar device with huge outputs.  Anyway someone on this form was discussing the time between spark discharges changing on their unit.  Hope this helps. 
I also remember Don talking a lot about photomultipliers so I googled it and after a little research this thing sure looks a lot like overunity.  They multiply one electron into 100 million electrons using only small power supply, they're used in night vision devices, old automatic headlight dimmers among others.  I bought Don's dvd and on it he describes a few devices and shows the camera a close up view of a neon power supply and says to look at the input and output ratings right on the nameplate.  The input watts are lower than the output.  His point was that overunity devices are all around us, we just do not realize it.  I ordered the neon power supply, mine is "NeonPro" and damn if it isn't overunity.  The input is 110v @0.5 amp that should be 60 watts.   The output is stated at 5000v @ I forget the miliamps but it calculated to 150 watts output.  This guy is for real and I just wish I knew more about electronics so I could SAFELY continue.

Hi bw, nice info about input spark fire freq, something to bear in mind.

I guess in nightvision devices your talking about a photomultiplier which can also be triggered by eletctrons as well as photons. They are very much like a plasma based transistor. You can make one yourself by taking a small neon lamp and then bias it so it rests just under striking voltage.

Then any extra energy you show to the junction will be enough to cause plasma startup and then it switches hard on. I have had a neon lamp critically biased on the bench and then by simply shining a small torch on it that is enough to cause avalanche and ignition. I was shocked to see just how sensitive it was.

Old nightvision devices used arrays of gas tubes (multistaged as onthecuttingedge referenced) with refrigiration systems to reduce noise, they were very sensitive. but nowadays large die refrigirated chips can give even better sensitivity and especially resolution.

plasma conduction is quite magical though with aspects of superconductivity about it, could probably be used in OU devices somehow, so I do agree with you something very interesting.

When you built the plasmaglobe device can you remember approx V and I readings on output?

[Peterae]

xeno
I seem to be getting some errors in the calcs.

I tried a 100pf cap and got a dip at 3.5Mhz

I tried a 220pf cap and got a dip at 2.68Mhz

i tried a 470pf and got 1.82Mhz

Using an online inductor calculator with my coil dimensions i should have a theoretical inductance of 15.7uH

Now using the dip freq for each in a calculator i get

100pf dip was 3.51Mhz calculated inductance=21uH
220pf dip was 2.68Mhz calculated inductance=16uH
470pf dip was 1.82Mhz calculated inductance=16uH

I don't know what happened to the 100pf cap reading?

Lets use 16uH for further calcs

now my coil i have calculated is using 17feet of wire for each 20 turns coil.

so when you read Don 1/4 wave 1/2 wave ect you get the following

Don says in feet 1/4 wave =247/F Mhz

well i know the wire length so therefore FMhz=247/LFeet

so to calculate the 1/4 wave for my secondary i would need to resonate at
247/17 = 14.529Mhz

Now if my inductance is 16uH this would require a Capacitance of 8pF

So as you can see there is no way the secondary can be tuned for 1/4 wave unless it is the natural resonant freq of the coil without a cap, so maybe it is the other 20 turn coil that is to be made self resonant at the 1/4 wave freq, but the 20 turn coil that has the cap is at a different freq.

The full wave for my 20 turn coil =
998/17 = 58.705Mhz

My 20 turn coil using the 0.5uF cap would res at 56kHZ

Peter

[Peterae]

Ha Ha
Just read Don's stuff again and b) say use natural freq for calculations

So it looks like i need to find the natural freq of my coil, not quiet sure how i'm going to do this.
Any suggestions are welcome, i am thinking now that if i pulse it it should have a natural resonance i can scope, maybe the ringing freq or something.

I am guessing i may not be far off 1/4 wave already if that is the case
Peter

[xenomorphlabs]

So as you can see there is no way the secondary can be tuned for 1/4 wave unless it is the natural resonant freq of the coil without a cap, so maybe it is the other 20 turn coil that is to be made self resonant at the 1/4 wave freq, but the 20 turn coil that has the cap is at a different freq.

The full wave for my 20 turn coil =
998/17 = 58.705Mhz

My 20 turn coil using the 0.5uF cap would res at 56kHZ

Peter

Peter and Yucca,
Smith actually talked in a presentation about the physical dimension length of the coil wire in relation to each other to be 1/4 !
He sais then you are almost tuned immediately, just the caps correct the last difference.
It can be disinfo though, at other points he clearly sais wavelength.
Maybe worth trying it out ?!
Maybe he talks about the total wire length, not only the part that is wound in circles around the coil former ?!
It might explain why he did not use a much shorter wire for the primary as
it seems quite long and bends away from the device and back to the PVC tubes.


Peter, your dipmeter is properly callibrated?
I cannot explain the deviations too