Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts

[Peterae]

Hi Forest
I am still stuck on getting the coil right before i hook the psu up.

I have reviewed the video tonight and come to the conclusion my primary is way too small, his only just fits inside his secondary coil

Peter

[forest]

Hi Forest
I am still stuck on getting the coil right before i hook the psu up.

I have reviewed the video tonight and come to the conclusion my primary is way too small, his only just fits inside his secondary coil

Peter

Ok,then made exactly the same primary with the same components , connect NST  and all parts of primary except capacitors. Place a small pins in the place of capacitors and then measure inductance of your primary. you got that point ?

[minde4000]

@Peterae

Static system measured numbers will be quite a bit different from actual working system at certain frequency. Primary small resistance will push resonant frequency one way secondary higher resistance will affect measured frequency even more. To do math on system @ its working frequency is very complicated. Don Smith system does not look tuned exectly at all  but numbers like you said come pretty close. Now coil lenghts do not match to quarter wave in any way so I believe it goes by even wire division tuning wich I have never heard before.
   So. His system looks to be out of precise tune thats for sure because precision tuning can only be achieved using variable components unless someone could do exect math on it wich is not practical for non geniuses To me it looks like more or less tuned energy pump.

  I would say just finish it up as close as he had and test it out.  Center tap might do its thing regardless of presice tuning...

Regards Minde

[Peterae]

Hi Minde

Thanks for your input.
Yes i agree i am going to rebuild my primary tommorow to get it as big a diameter as i can so it still fits inside the secondary.

Don did tune his secondary coil precisely by testing for nodes with a neon which i will also try once i feel i have got as close to his coil setup as possible, again you are probably right that it is not so important i get an exact match to his coils but for replication purposes i might as well try as best i can.

We will see how i go tommorow.

Yes the quarter wire length for primary seems to be the important bit not quarter wavelength.

Peter

[Peterae]

Today i remade my Primary coil, i increased the diameter to just fit inside my secondary coil and i managed to use a full quarter wire length of the secondary in just over 5.5 turns so i should now have a pretty close match with regard to the wire length relationships, i will try resonating it tomorrow with caps.

Now in one of Don's videos he states that some Neon Transformers printed ratings show OU

Poynt99 stated to me this may not be the case, so i looked into this a little below are the specs of a Ventex NPS-12D10

You will notice at the bottom of the specs it has ** and says 'Equivalent brightness of electromagnetic transformer' so the print on the label is only an equivalent rating compared to a conventional transformer as opposed to this switched mode version which has an oscillating output of 20kHz, and therefore is not a true representation of power output from the module.

Another thing that occurred to me is that in the device i am trying to replicate don uses a dimmer to vary the 120VAC feeding the neon transformer, now i am not so sure this would work well with a switched mode psu based neon supply, it certainly wouldn't give a linear variation of the HV output and would probably cutout totally once a certain voltage is reached, in fact if the switched psu did it's job i would have thought it would either maintain regulation or cutout totally.

I am now wondering did he even power this up at some point OUCH.

Peter


Specifications     
Input Voltage:    12 VDC (±10%)
Input Current:    1000 mA (Max)
Driving Distance*:    
Neon:    1-10 ft, (0-3 m)
Mercury:    1-12 ft, (0-3.7 m)
Output Voltage:    3000V
Output Current**:    15 mA
Frequency:    20 kHz ( ± )
Operating Temp:    0° to 104°F
(-18° to 40°C)
Dimensions    
Length:    3.0 in. (76.20 mm)
Width:    1.75 in. (44.45 mm)
Height:    1.25 in. (31.75 mm)
Mounting:    2.6 in. (66.04 mm)
Weight:    6.0 oz. (158.0 gr)
12 VDC Primary Leads:    8 in. (45.72 cm) wo/jack
Secondary GTO Leads:    18 in. (45.7 cm)

* Based on standard 12mm tube. Deduct one foot from driving footages for each pair of electrodes.

** Equivalent brightness of electromagnetic transformer