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Magnetic Resonance Devices based on Don Smith Concepts

Started by xenomorphlabs, July 25, 2009, 08:00:09 PM

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NTesla

Quote from: Magluvin on November 10, 2011, 11:41:39 PM
My previous post was in reference to Mindes pic  ;]

NT
I see the diode issue after the NT.  Are you getting anything into those large secondary caps? 

Interesting on the resistors at the output. Do they get hot?

Maybe some of what is shown in the doc file as to what you could try after the big caps. Use a spark gap to discharge into a step down transformer.

Using resistors to step down thousands of volts down to 12 or 24v probably reduces your current availability to the inverter quite a bit.  Just my opinion so far.  ;]

The doc shows your method and just above it as I just suggested.  Maybe the resistor way is more for other types of loads.

Im interested how much and how fast those large sec caps charge up.   ;]

Mags

Based on the halogen bulb lighting and a few experiments with resistors on the output for voltage division it was obvious from simple observation that the setup does not produce much energy and is definitely not over-unity. I did not try a SG on the secondary.

One could argue that the schematic is in-complete and therefore it won't work as intended, however my issue is that the schematic matches the video of the device Don demonstrates (but never runs) and therefore if it doesn't work this reduces his credibility near to zero in my opinion.

Why would someone show you an 'over-unity' device they built WITHOUT demonstrating it? The conspiratory minded would argue that because he would be shut down if the devices was the real deal. Maybe that's true however he could have simply run it with a load and no measurement equipment visible!

Unless someone can demonstrate a working replication with unexpected high output levels it is not worth pursuing a dead end.

I have grown tired of over-unity claims that have ZERO evidence, and the money and effort required to replicate them could be better spent on other things.

Magluvin

Ok, I did a remake of what I think might help.  ;]  Maybe

I just edited the original NTesla pic above.

First, in the blue square, this is the way I see using the 2 phase, dual output neon transformer in Dons pics. From what I have read about it.

In the original Ntesla drawing(included below), I see only half wave rectification. I also corrected the the lower diode after the NST, as Ntesla said.  ;]   So for the unique NST used by Don, I made corrections necessary to provide full wave the the cap. Using half wave will reduce the charging time by half.

In the blue square I also included a gnd(the gnd screw on the side of Dons NST)  In the red square, picture the sec as if it were the sec from the NST and the gnd(center tap L2), and we have full wave out to the cap after the sec.

Or, in the yellow square, if the turns of the 2 halves are not wound in the same direction, Top CW bottom CCW, then both coils will send charge to the cap(in the red square) at the same time in half wave, but more current, and the center tap is the common.

Not saying the NST has opposing winds on its sec.  ;] I dont know, but if it did, it would also be a half wave situation, but I dont see why it would be opposing winds, its not common.

As you can see my addition of a transformer(just a square ;]) that is a step down.  Also added a second spark gap(green square).

Now, 8000v is a lot. And if discharged into the input of the step down transformer, there should be a good output on the other side. 

I think that if the second spark gap were set to fire at near 60hz, we might be there. Of course the 8000v caps uf value may need adjustment along with the spark gap width will determine the spark timing.  :]

Considering the nice builds you guys have, it might be worth a try, with most likely the biggest expense being the step down transformer and adding a spark gap.   ;]

Ok, im going to work on my drive circuit for my toroid opposing coils setup.  ;]

Mags


Magluvin

Was thinking, in my mod above, if we lose the inverter, and just charge the input battery.

Do you guys know the power that your NST uses from input?

Mags

Qwert

Hi.
If you, guys are aware of this, just tell me and I'll delete it just to preserve the space.
Tom Bearden on his website has a page about a project "Minuteman".
http://www.cheniere.org/misc/minuteman.htm   
It mentions three patents in the category of Amplifiers, all of them available on Internet. I think they're worth to see.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3239771.html
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3239772.html
http://www.google.de/patents/about?id=duMyAAAAEBAJ

Magluvin