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Selfrunning 3 KWatts ERR unit powering 3 x 800 Watt lamps

Started by hartiberlin, July 26, 2009, 11:08:50 PM

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amigo

Harvey,

I guess you've put me in the bag with the other skeptics, didn't you?

I'd love to believe this specific invention is for real but there's way too much noise on the Web and elsewhere about everything, accidental and on purpose as well, that one really needs to stop and reflect on things before jumping up in excitement.

BUT, I will hold no candle for anyone wanting to profit on this invention, or any other like it. Certain things should be free and available to everyone: health, power (energy), water, food. No matter who they are or where they are.

People (in general) have become desensitized and inhumane to one another so much that we have forgotten we only have each other. Under the capitalistic pretense of "There's nothing wrong with making a buck" anything goes these days. Our Corporate Fascist Overlords are a the prime example for it, where it does not matter who dies or which country gets overthrown, as long as they make profit.

I'm sorry, but if Dr. Schwartz has a real thing, then the only correct course of action, in my humble opinion, would be to release it out into the public so everyone can benefit, not just him and his cadre of investors. When one considers that billions of people are suffering on this planet right now because they have no electricity or water or sanitation or health, somehow it seems that good Doctor is helping them remain like that, by being greedy.

Let the history judge those who had the means to help - but knowingly failed to do so.

johnkhutchison

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Cloxxki

If the honorable Dr. really has what he claims, I'm baffled why at his apparent respectworthy age, he would spend years on making a buck, where with the support of like-minded open source researchers, a Nobel prize in physics would be but a formality.

- He'll give out some small, but working prototypes, for us to do extensive testing on
- Help us build larger, more powerful units
- We, will in turn help make the devices safer, and more commercially viable
- We'll start a factory producing commercial portable units, to make sure big commerce doesn't drive up prices beyond the reasonable
- Our profits will go mostly towards free units for charity. They'll know WHO needs or deserves true free energy. We'll attach an educational program. Maybe build 3rd world fair trade factories.
- We'll assist the Dr. in writing down and mass-publishing his knowledge and other ideas, for future generations to take advantage of.
- We'll get him his Nobel prize, for him and his family to be proud of. He'll make more money speaking at universities etc than he'll ever will selling patents to big oil's timeline stretching agents.

Who was he last man to single-handedly bring free energy to the people, all by himself?
Why would on with the better of manking in mind, refuse the assistance of the smartest, most selfless army in the world? This community are like Ninja's. Even if there are but a couple thousand, when focused at one good cause, they can bring down an empire.

Harvey

Quote from: markdansie on August 04, 2009, 03:55:20 PM
@Harvey,
I stand corrected on tesla's nephew.
Thanks.
PS howlong did you witness the device running for.
Mark

Actually, to the contrary, I was not correcting you. Instead I was offering a source to the truthful data regarding Nikola's nephews (which is probably not exhaustive). I am not certain how things were twisted about - perhaps mistakes were made mixing up the actor (Petar) who played SNK in the Tesla series and somehow combining the names to get Petar Savo - I don't know the facts behind that story which is fully replicated throughout the internet. If we knew the precise date, I suppose we could get at the Buffalo Newspaper archives and see what really happened and who was there. Most myths are rooted in some truth. It is noteworthy that many persons who migrated from Serbia were renamed when they entered the states. A good friend of mine experienced that, Boris Nikoloff. On his documents it shows his name as Nicholaus. He never used the assigned name. So, one of the nephews evidently had a dual name as well as recorded on those pages. Another thing to consider is King Peter had visited Tesla. So, with all the names and mixed stories, the only thing we know for sure is Tesla's own words regarding such technology and possibly some archived newspapers in Buffalo New York. By the way, the Wardenclyffe site is for sale and some are trying to have it declared a historical landmark.

Edit:
How long? Not long enough to make any conclusive evaluations, maybe a couple or few minutes, I really wasn't counting. The demonstration was simple and quick but the lamp did get warm pretty quick. I had been in contact with Dr. Schwartz for quite some time prior and just hadn't been able to meet personally. When the opportunity was presented to meet him, I jumped at the chance. The live demonstration was just icing on the cake and I was instructed at the time to keep it under wraps.

Cheers,

;)

Harvey

@Amigo & Cloxxki,

I sympathize with you both here. It certainly seems as though it would be easy just give away the farm in the name of helping others. I could round up about 300 or so homeless from LA if you'd be willing to give your houses up for them. It certainly would be a noble gesture on your part. But realistically, nuclear energy is power right? Why don't we all just make small nuclear power plants in our garages? Who owns the rights to all that? We haven't even done a biological study on this device yet - for all we know it heals cancer, or the opposite. I think you probably see that I am over emphasizing the reality that this technology does not belong to the people, yet, nor is it currently known to be safe for the people. Trying to push the issue or expedite its release will be a futile exercise. Dr. Schwartz wants the people to have this technology, but not before it is safe and certainly not if it would have any negative impact on the world economy. The last thing we need to do right now is get a lot of people fired that work for energy related industries. The unemployment rate is soaring badly enough as it is. The best we could hope for in the immediate future would be to fill future needs as demands increase while leaving the current status quo. Perhaps a gradual and methodical conversion from Diesel Generator plants to this technology where it could be isolated and vaulted away from biological concerns. Maybe instead of stealing jobs from current energy providers we can find ways to create jobs.

One thing is certain, hooking your house up to one of these tomorrow is not going to happen. I've already offered to use my house as a testbed - the technology just isn't ready for that yet.

Also, none of us know what Dr. Schwartz may be bound to. For all we know, (and this is pure conjecture on my part), he could have been funded by someone else to do the research and they may hold the production rights, I don't know. But I do know, that it is unfair to place ourselves in decision making seats with regards to research we had nothing to do with. Ever read the children's story about the hen that was going to make bread? From growing the wheat to putting  the butter on it, no one bothered to help even in the slightest. But boy they all had something to say about getting some for themselves - greedy little critters ;D.  Well, the point is, it is not our technology and those involved will do what they want with it when and how they want to. We should be glad that they gave us a glimpse of it and have encouraged us to experiment with some of the fundamental aspects of it. If we were keeping this a secret, it makes you wonder what other technologies are out there being kept quiet as they are developed.

@John,
Hey - sorry I haven't been in touch so much. I was in your neck of the woods state side but I think at that time you were back up north. Are you looking to manufacture the crystals yet, or is there still a parallel issue? So many new developments, we will have to get together at some point. Good to hear from you.

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