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Started by Grumpy, August 10, 2009, 09:48:27 AM

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Grumpy

Quote from: giantkiller on September 16, 2009, 12:20:17 AM
I agree that randomness is not part of the function. I only wanted to show that the bigger events can be seen without particular control. The ECD example would be nice if the event could be sustained into a constant effect and captured.

If this solitary event that was reported is not part of the process we strive for then my tests are only valid to point the builds are another type of effort. If this is the case then I would like to see behind the veil. With high 'Q' and resonance would electrostatic need be added to the mix also? This answer would enable further progress or a better depth of understanding of the goal. So far what everyone has seen are builds and claims of just high 'Q' and resonance or a static B(magnetic) field and pulsing. I also would like to see the specs for an electrostatic process to incorporate. Everyone has a different thought on the input parameters, whether right or wrong. How would an electrostatic process be shown and incorporated? Like T.T.Brown did with 2 plates and H.V? Could this be done with the 2 layers of collector coils. I am adding the second layer next. But just plain inductive coupling could prove wrong. Would 2 biased coils layered be considered electrostatic? This would give 2 magnetic fields in parallel while quenching one with control coils. The restoration of the bias field on one would be seen on the other. Is this even close? The GK4 is a sloppy example but this process was in there in a random way, not statically. If we look at Otto's winding examples the wire usually folds back on itself and then wrapped around. Once again we see a pulse on a bias field.

Making small steps to see possible and negligible parameters. TSL made inroads into this area before he left. I have his post printed out am assessing that info towards additions into the latest build here. He also put the collectors in series with the control coils at one point. The GK4 had these windings very close on a small diameter while my latest has this model spread out in larger diameter. My thinking is the reconnecting flux would provide a large event to capture from the larger aperture. Only the SM17 (large ring) was able to drive truly powered loads. The smaller TPUs actually just interacted with the filament inductance. And they did get hot. Now if the bulbs were lit, cold and under water by one wire then we would have a different design.

Is this assessment aligned with what is perceived by anybody here? I could have easily fallen out of my chair and don't even know if I am laying on the floor correctly. LOL.

--giantkiller.


"Resonance", in the classical sense, has nothing to do with it.

"Electrostatic" should be replaced with Dollard's term "longitudinal magneto dielectric".

You are looking to hard and at too many different things.

How do electrons begin to flow in a conductor in the first place?
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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Grumpy

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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darkspeed

Quote from: Grumpy on September 16, 2009, 09:00:57 AM
no shock wave = no honey

Swap h20 for e-  ;D

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Water hammer (or, more generally, fluid hammer) is a pressure surge or wave resulting when a fluid (usually a liquid but sometimes also a gas) in motion is forced to stop or change direction suddenly (momentum change). Water hammer commonly occurs when a valve is closed suddenly at an end of a pipeline system, and a pressure wave propagates in the pipe.

giantkiller

@ darkspeed,
I can see this action when the flux is canceled or reconnected. That produces a shockwave.

--giantkiller.

wattsup

@all

OK, I need some help to grab this image. When I use VirtualDubMod Frame 3695 on the FTPU video, I use the null transform with the following coordinates;

x1 offset = 301
x2 offset = 233
y1 offset = 103
y2 offset = 236

When I use Snagit to grab this image, it is very squarry as shown below. So if any of you are using the same VirtualDubMod and have a better way to grab an image, please do so and put it up here so I can then add the identifications to the components.

Anyways, to not wait for a  better image and since i will be busy for the next few days, I am putting this up today and will work on the Legend but most of it will be pretty easy to follow if someone can put it in schematic form to fill in the other blanks.

OK, just know that B2 is a wire from under the top disk coming from that round component that you see when he tilts the ftpu. I think that one is either another capacitor or most likely a very high induction coil (very thin wire - many turns). With the transistor placement one could say SM is just doing a dual ring ozone patent short whee the toroid is the working transformer with outputs taken from one positive and one negative side of the toroid. Top loop is positive, bottom loop is negative.

I think the drive battery is in the center of the spool. One side of the battery is going to the rings (I'd say negative). The positive is going through the R resistor then to either the mica caps end or the cap,tran,cap ends. I'd don't know enough about EE to know which of the three Transistor (B) connections B1, B2 and B3 is the base, collector and emitter. But I do have a vague idea. lol

Enjoy.