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Started by Grumpy, August 10, 2009, 09:48:27 AM

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BEP

Quote from: Grumpy on August 13, 2009, 11:55:45 AM
There is a little more to the Wheatstone experiment than just two sparks and three gaps.  He was able to measure the velocity at 288,000 miles per second.  This is 1.54 times 186,000 miles per second.  As some of you may recall, Tesla also measured this velocity (or something very close to it) for longitudinal waves.  I don;t recall anyone eery bringing this up before, but several people have mentioned that something flows or propagates from each side of the circuit.  See attached.

On the magnet in a tube, it falls at an angle if the tube is slit.  I can't recall what the explanation was for this.

Wheatstone was a true genius. He should have won some kind of prize using the mirror as he did.

The average speed of a moving spatial charge? About c*1.625. re: Borderlands and the professor/student group that dropped off the planet after they submitted a paper with confirming experiments a couple of years ago.

Current being two entwined opposite forces..... Yes sir!

I don't know what you were told on the magnet falling on a slit tube but....

It falls on an angle because...

Lets say the tube is a wooden rod instead.

If that rod is perfectly vertical the magnet will have a different angle depending upon the test location (North or South hemisphere) and which magnet pole is facing down. One pole down the magnet will try to right itself to the Earth's magnetic field. The other pole down the magnet will tend to fall the same angle it was released.

Kind of the same reason I think early TPUs liked to work spin-up vs. spin-down and reverse when tried in the other hemisphere.

My guess is the output polarity was also reversed in the Southern hemisphere.

Grumpy

Quote from: BEP on August 13, 2009, 10:48:55 PM
Wheatstone was a true genius. He should have won some kind of prize using the mirror as he did.

The average speed of a moving spatial charge? About c*1.625. re: Borderlands and the professor/student group that dropped off the planet after they submitted a paper with confirming experiments a couple of years ago.

Current being two entwined opposite forces..... Yes sir!

I don't know what you were told on the magnet falling on a slit tube but....

It falls on an angle because...

Lets say the tube is a wooden rod instead.

If that rod is perfectly vertical the magnet will have a different angle depending upon the test location (North or South hemisphere) and which magnet pole is facing down. One pole down the magnet will try to right itself to the Earth's magnetic field. The other pole down the magnet will tend to fall the same angle it was released.

Kind of the same reason I think early TPUs liked to work spin-up vs. spin-down and reverse when tried in the other hemisphere.

My guess is the output polarity was also reversed in the Southern hemisphere.

There have been a few groups that dropped out of sight after showing "too much" progress in the last 3 decades. 

On the slit pipe experiment:
http://www.16pi2.com/eddy_currents.htm

I agree that reversing spin direction would reverse lead polarity.

The rotating stuff probably couples to magnetic fields in an unusual way...

;)
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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The magnetic field could also take on a form of a torus around a conductor.  The virtual particles being accelerated on the inner diameter.  Like a smoke ring where the current through the eye of the torus accelerates the torroidal shell currents. Friction accelerates the particles on the inside of the Torus which increases the torroidal shell current velocity.  Reverse the current through the eye of the torus and the torridal shell currents are now resisted and the torus disintegrates. The magnetic torroidal acceleration can also provide for the effect we call inductance.  The torroid taking energy to form into it's inertial framework and then giving this energy back as the torroidal currents wind down.  Now superimpose two of these torroids with opposing torroidal shell currents and the magnetic field seems to disappear. Space the conductors with opposing tcurrents just far enough apart like in a bifilar arrangement where the outer torroid currents interfere.  They interefere in such a manner as to allow energy transfer from one torrus to the next very quickly.  An acceleration of the say outer torrus virtual partical velocity loops it's way through the torroidal matrix and reaches the inner turn torroid faster than the electrical current can travel through the length of the coil wire .  Much like torque increase on a loaded gear train appearing pretty quick on the output shaft torque.  The input energy if not drawn from bifilar coil (tesla's pancake coil/energy capacitor)  the initial input energy is stored as the entire magnetic currents of the matrix stepup a notch due to the input.  The magnetic current reaching the inner torroid then reflectikng right back to the outer.
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Wow already another 5 pages added to the Grumpy mess...this is going fast.

Let's see ,What is the result so far?

Quote from: Grumpy on August 13, 2009, 11:46:18 PM

probably


Probably?? isn't good enough ,so if there is anybody not going to get it, it will be you  :)

When are you people going to realize that adding posts to these threads isn't going to deliver working models?
This is going on for so long and the result is hundred,thousants of posts in various threads and all with the outcome 0.

I don't think people really want to build these things, i think they only want to talk and speculate.
Sad story...
M.

Grumpy

Quote from: -[marco]- on August 15, 2009, 12:49:05 AM
Wow already another 5 pages added to the Grumpy mess...this is going fast.

Let's see ,What is the result so far?

Probably?? isn't good enough ,so if there is anybody not going to get it, it will be you  :)

When are you people going to realize that adding posts to these threads isn't going to deliver working models?
This is going on for so long and the result is hundred,thousants of posts in various threads and all with the outcome 0.

I don't think people really want to build these things, i think they only want to talk and speculate.
Sad story...
M.

Marco,  once again you prove that you just don't get it.  Do you think my posts are just idle speculation?  Perhaps you just can read, or you have a learning disability.

Much of what I post is meant to be read by people that never post.  Not by you or anyone else that talks out the side of their head.  The rest is to make people think.  If you want a "how to" guide - write your own.

By the way, you won't get funding if you can't get it to work.  Seems fate has as sense of irony.

Just because people do not show these things, does not mean they are not "building".   You talk about "building", but what have you shown that works?  Not a damn thing, and you would be smart to keep it that way.

Do you think that nothing happens outside the web?  LOL! 

Keep thinking that...


It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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