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Started by Grumpy, August 10, 2009, 09:48:27 AM

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Grumpy

Quote from: BEP on September 18, 2009, 09:16:06 PM
From what I could tell it continues on its own, once found.

I don't think we start it. I think we just tune into it.

I'll be glad when I can have some bench time  :)

You start it unless it occurs on it's own through natural means.

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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Grumpy

Quote from: giantkiller on September 18, 2009, 11:45:20 PM
Well that made me think. Are the bursts of kicks I see bursts because as the incoming energy wants to dynamically drive the coil that I am trying to statically drive the coil? Sounds like I am seeing bursts because I clamp the operation. Hence the gaps in the signal are my operation or my setup cannot vary to meet the external changes needed to stream continuously. In short varying impedance needs to happen like self regulating or self tuning. So I could now view this from the opposite side saying that I inhibit the incoming stream.

I will get a price on the Pearson current monitors and order one. They even show bias notes. 8)

--giantkiller. I'll be back next Thursday to continue.

Th only reason that anything is incoming is because you suddenly changed the parameters, but some parameters require time.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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darkspeed

Quote from: Grumpy on September 19, 2009, 12:56:04 AM
Th only reason that anything is incoming is because you suddenly changed the parameters, but some parameters require time.

Furthers the vote for radiant event.

On another thought.
I think people may be going in the wrong direction with wire choice by using solid wires.
A radiant event will travel the surface of a wire while the electrons get bogged down in the resistance of the wire.
You need as much surface area as possible  with an appreciable resistance. Lamp cord or Litz would work

When he says " You have to be able to find the potential " consider the possibility that the potential can be found on one conductor by contacting it at two different locations. When is a short not a short?


forest

When I wind coil using stranded wire is that one coil or rather multiple of coils ?

sparks

This post is getting beyond basics but a virtual rotating magnetic field is easy to build.  Input into 3 or 4 tanks which are resonant at different freqs.  I notice that the "control" windings use different diameter wire and turns.  I come from an electric motor background and this is similar to what happens in a single phase motor.  The two windings currents are out of phase because of the differing rlc parameters.  The auxillary winding uses added capacitance to "match" the line frequency input.  This current leads the main winding current and the magnetic field poles appear to shift from the auxillary winding conductors to the main winding conductors.  Three or 4 tanks with the inductors a solenoid winding wrapped around a common transformer core would be interesting.  A magnetic input into the core of the 3pole motor would excite the tanks which would start bouncing out of phase.  I believe this is a storage scheme as the magnetic input would be stored in the resonant circuits creating a virtual rotating magnetic field.  SM's transformer core appears to be a "collector" winding.  A flow of current in this winding inputs magnetically into the tanks and the field appears to spin as the magnetic field density change shifts from one control winding (inductance in rc tank circuit) solenoid to the next.  One input kick into the collector winding would be transformed into 3 or 4 ringing solenoidal magnetic field pinches circumnavigating the transformer.  Any collector current draw would increase the core flux change which would end up inputting more to the tanks as the control windings act as current transformers.  Lots of eddy currents and heating under load.
The output of a spinning magnetic field would be the mechanical equivalent of a high speed spinning metal ring spinning inside the control windings.  Instead of a solenoid plunger trying to center on a static magnetic field a number of plungers would be propelled around the circumference of the tpu trying to center on a moving magnetic field pinch. 
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