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Overunity Machines Forum



IST'S JOULE THIEF HEATER UNITS

Started by innovation_station, August 23, 2009, 02:47:08 PM

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innovation_station

gary i have a delicat verry special project just for you ...

this is a very special gift .. 

for the fets you need 2 diodes .. and pnp fets ... pos pulse goes through fet  then diode ..  you then take a diode off in oppsite dirrection b4 the fet after the diode .. important ...  or...  you dont put the second diode there you allow the colpase and inputted engery to transfer through the core ...


my gift to you superceeds many ...

you will throw this in the garbage when you build this  gift i give to you as your 3/4 of the way there ..   

msg me for details ...  after you master this you can share it ... ok

:)

if you need help start a topic i will help u ...
w814!
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

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Artic_Knight

so no one has any substantial idea or experiment for a JT heater yet?  lets try using very thin wires with a normal JT, with a specialty diode we can force a large spike down a thin wire and that may generate the heat. better yet lets get a ceramic off the shelf cheep heater and try to see if a jt can be modded to power it. i have a cheep ceramic heater in mind. they are less that 20 bux at walmart.

come on lets get movin on this! this is the first logistical world benefiting application i have seen from a circuit that is supposedly so fantastic.

thats my 2c

resonanceman

Quote from: Artic_Knight on December 04, 2009, 09:32:57 PM
so no one has any substantial idea or experiment for a JT heater yet?  lets try using very thin wires with a normal JT, with a specialty diode we can force a large spike down a thin wire and that may generate the heat. better yet lets get a ceramic off the shelf cheep heater and try to see if a jt can be modded to power it. i have a cheep ceramic heater in mind. they are less that 20 bux at walmart.

come on lets get movin on this! this is the first logistical world benefiting application i have seen from a circuit that is supposedly so fantastic.

thats my 2c

ArticKnight

I  have been working on other things ...........and I was thinking more along the lines of  those  Peltier modules    that way  we have hot or cold .

I have been  looking into how to fill a Ultracap lately ......
Assuming  I can work that out ......scaling   it up  a  little  from 2 V to 12 should be no problem 


gary

guruji

Quote from: Artic_Knight on December 04, 2009, 09:32:57 PM
so no one has any substantial idea or experiment for a JT heater yet?  lets try using very thin wires with a normal JT, with a specialty diode we can force a large spike down a thin wire and that may generate the heat. better yet lets get a ceramic off the shelf cheep heater and try to see if a jt can be modded to power it. i have a cheep ceramic heater in mind. they are less that 20 bux at walmart.

come on lets get movin on this! this is the first logistical world benefiting application i have seen from a circuit that is supposedly so fantastic.

thats my 2c

Hi Arctic you're right no one have done it yet. To light up a heater it's a hard task I think cause it has to be 1000w at least.
Wish a hero to come forward and do this.
Thanks

Artic_Knight

well i have noticed some interesting things about electricity since fooling with joulthiefs. im sure anyone who has played with them noticed that hv low amp seems to power devices with less watts consumed than that device was rated for. this i believe has applied to lights thus far.

now the joule thief could be "reversed" and instead of creating a high frequency high voltage low amp current for lights (the most effecient for lighting) perhaps for heating we will find its high frequency low voltage high amperage thats most effecient. i believe using a tesla bifiliar wound coil as the pickup should achieve this easily, especially if the primary and trigger are double the windings.

i found that bifiliar coils if powered create a higher magnetic field and higher voltage (if collected by a regular coil)  but if operated in reverse they create high amps. its rather interesting. as if the increased magnetic field produced wasnt interesting enough.  i believe its been proven that amps creates heat in the "resistance" style heaters such as metal filiments or ceramics even quartz and that the voltage has less (if any) importance here like with lights.

The right frequency will do the most good considering if the frequency is right you can heat metal in seconds through a induced magnetic field.  i believe its called induction heating/welding.

hmm much testing needs to be done.

guess ill start fooling around with with the classic 3 coil joule with the bifiliar pickup on a ceramic heater element. perhaps a touch of tesla with the air core for higher frequencies and maybe a 4th coil in resonance would help.