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New invention of motion less generation of electric power

Started by powercat, August 26, 2009, 08:52:05 AM

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Judges

Kinda makes me ashamed to admit  that I belong to the same race(human).
Just my thoughts,,,,,,,,,,,,,errrrrr,feelings.
What if a new person with a gift shows up here?
How would we treat him?
This thread needs to be turned around or ended.
I can control what I look at on my end>
I will accept that option for now.
Logged:  Saturday evening,central Texas,September 5, 2009
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FatBird

@  Ali SAID ON 9-1-09

The behavior of the unit is purely like a generator you off load it, the  voltage rises we need to develop an AVR.  Loads like air conditioners turns on the compressor and turns off this could seriously effect the process, an instantaneous response to load variation is required to be incorporated within device.

Device cannot work without load it will destroy it self (resonating frequency).  We need to include dummy load to balance the device and harness the appropriate output according to current dissipation.  If output load increase from the capacity of input source the unit destroy itself.  Things are not so simple as it seems, a lot more work is required before the device is ready for market.

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Ali,

Above, you mentioned you need to get some flaws out of your Device before you sell it.  MOST of us BUYERS WANT to BUY it AS IS WITH THE FLAWS so we can HELP YOU further your research.  Please consider selling a KIT which includes a Schematic, Programmed IC, and a Parts Layout. We the buyers WILL SUPPLY THE REST of the PARTS.  Plus, we Buyers AGREE to PROTECT the Privacy of your invention.

The advantages to you are:


1.  Your invention will be protected.

2.  You will receive money now to further your research.

3.  We buyers can PAY YOU INSTANTLY online through PayPal.Com

4.  Our feedback of ideas back to you can help you improve your Device.

5.  Your Utube Video and Postings here on OVERUNITY, PROVE the invention is YOURS.

6.  After you receive each payment, you would only need to Snail Mail one Programmed IC, and Email 2 or 3 pieces of paper to each Buyer (schematic, & Parts Layout).

7.  As a suggestion, perhaps $45 per Kit would be fair.  The $45 should be Out The Door and include Postage & Handling.  100 Buyers times $45 will give you $4,500 to help your research.

8.  Some Buyers ONLY want a Schematic and Parts Layout.  Maybe you could sell (Email) those 2 pieces of paper for $30.  100 Buyers times $30 will give you $3,000 more to further your research.

9.  Plus, after you improve your Device, you can come back here to OverUnity & SELL your Improved Schematic and Parts List..





Thank you for your consideration.



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winsonali

dear fatbird
i respect your offer and value your suggestion

i am currently developing the DC input source for the unit
once that unit is complete  we can satisfy the skeptics of its possible use with windmill and solar panel.

all those who are in touch with me and giving me good ideas i will send them a complete unit for no cost as a gentle man promise.



thanks and regards

tinu

@ winsonali,

My apologies but I don’t think I get it right…
You claim a non-trivial OU rate (assuming that would be such a thing as a “trivial OU rate”!) and then it seems you send the readers hunting ghosts (shiphon etc) and/or you find various excuses instead of doing the only one thing that matters, which is path no.1 bellow, of many false paths (2-5 that I could count so far) brought forward for a doubtful purpose (I suppose) as long as they are conditional to 1 and subsidiary to ‘the cause’:
   
1. All you have to do is nothing else but closing the loop! I understand you’ve fried many units so it shouldn’t be a problem to build&use two or more of them on that purpose. Come on now: dummy loads is piece of cake and I think 220V-30V transformers exist for some time as well as 12VDC-220VAC converters…  ;)
Maybe you can shed some light on the issue. Why it hasn’t been done yet?!

2. Money and family care are of concern? Not any longer after the point 1 above is proved. Sponsorships and donations will flow to you beyond anyone’s imagination and without you to have to oblige in any way.  Why is it then discussed inhere, prior to 1?!

3. Intellectual property is an issue? But there is no real need to divulge anything in a ‘black-box’ approach, as needed for point 1 above. Just let a tiny bulb lighting and ‘the box’ producing some heat, all from a 12V capacitor kick-start on 24h basis… Hmmm… would anybody need something else?!

4. Scientific recognition is what would satisfy you? Make point 1 above happen and even if you write that electricity is made out of little spaghetti ‘shiphoning’ out of something, it will still be published; no matter what you do, for such an experimental accomplishment you have real chances for Nobel.

5. Humanitarian concerns?! Ha! Again a marginal issue at your fingertip once point 1 is proven real.

Last but not least, I’m afraid that showing the proof of point 1 is not optional, my friend. It’s not for the ‘skeptics’ either but it’s fully implied by what’s been claimed already. Once you or anyone else claim that a device generates energy (which you had), decoupling it from its known power source has to be done sooner or later, pretty much like a solar panel or a wind turbine does not need to be plugged into an outlet to function.

So, I apologies again but this thread doesn’t make sense at all in my mind… or if it makes a sense that would be toward the same one as for each and every other OU-claims in the past…
Can you really change that or not? That’s the question!
If yes, how and when?
And in doing it, what is you need from us?

Best regards,
Tinu

robbie47

@ Ali,
Just like Tinu and many others, I was looking for clear indications whether you would allow us to replicate your findings.
That is why I asked very direct questions. I did not mean to be hostile or skeptic, but I am cautious.
Too many incorrect claims have passed in this forum earlier in time.
I hope you can understand our cautiousness.

I also realize that difference in cultures may play a role when people post in this forum.
What seems to be very rude in some cultures is perfectly normal behavior in other cultures.
If you feel offended, please do express it so we understand.

It would be helpful if you could indicate how you would like to go ahead after you finished your DC module.
Again, I respect your way of working to promote your finding although I can't understand why you promote it this way.