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New invention of motion less generation of electric power

Started by powercat, August 26, 2009, 08:52:05 AM

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gotoluc

Hi Ali,

the circuit I shared will give you True AC (not chopped DC like Inverter) however it will be square wave. If for some reason it needs to be sine wave then I think a 1/1 transformer should work.

Before we continue, can you do one more simple test. This test will eliminate the possibility that your device is fooling the utility meter. Simply use one light bulb in Series at 220v AC input (pre dimmer or variac) and use the same wattage bulbs on output. If you can light 2 or more bulbs on the output of the same wattage as the input series bulb and the input series bulb stays dimmer then the output bulbs then your device is an extraordinary find. Please also do a new video of this test as this will put the utility meter fooling discussion to rest.

Thank you for all your sharing and your time

Luc

Ergo

Who the "F" are you, Fatbird? Richard Willis perhaps?

Quote from: FatBird on September 09, 2009, 09:07:34 AM
GREAT UTube Video.  Please don't waste time on the Skeptics.  Skeptics are NEVER, EVER satisfied.
Anything else than a confirmed working self runner isn't proof on overunity.
Skeptics will always be satisfied when a real working "self running closed loop" system is presented.

Quote from: FatBird on September 09, 2009, 09:07:34 AM
There are about 100 Buyers ready to buy your GENIE (or the plans) RIGHT NOW FOR CASH, through PayPal.com, or whatever means you prefer.
You sound precisely like the typical "Free Energy scammer" yourself......
Why bother selling something that is not confirmed working if the purpose isn't scamming people?

robbie47

Guys, we really don't need personal attacks here.
This will cause unnecessary discussions.
Please, keep this thread as clean as possible. 

Omega_0

Quote from: winsonali on September 08, 2009, 06:18:35 PM

input to genie is 2.7 amps at 49.8 volts so its  49.8 * 2.7 = 134.46 watts
output from genie 1.33 amps at 338 volts so its    338 * 1.33 = 449.54


This calculation is obviously not correct. You can multiply voltage and current only if they are pure DC. I guess you know that.
For other waveforms, you must take the duty cycle into account and for a sin wave, take only RMS vaules of voltage and current.

As you said, DC measurements will settle this, but if you wish to show the non-DC power measurements, you will need an oscilloscope.

Anyway, much better than the household power meter, thanks a lot :)
I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

mscoffman

Quote from: gotoluc on September 09, 2009, 09:40:16 AM
Hi Ali,

the circuit I shared will give you True AC (not chopped DC like Inverter) however it will be square wave. If for some reason it needs to be sine wave then I think a 1/1 transformer should work.

Before we continue, can you do one more simple test. This test will eliminate the possibility that your device is fooling the utility meter. Simply use one light bulb in Series at 220v AC input (pre dimmer or variac) and use the same wattage bulbs on output. If you can light 2 or more bulbs on the output of the same wattage as the input series bulb and the input series bulb stays dimmer then the output bulbs then your device is an extraordinary find. Please also do a new video of this test as this will put the utility meter fooling discussion to rest.

Thank you for all your sharing and your time

Luc

Good to excellent idea!

A slight improvement in your suggestion though, use LED bulbs rather than
incandescent light bulbs. Led bulbs are much more efficient something
like 85% rather than 5% light vs IR infrared EMF and heat. So LED bulbs
will broadcast more energy more completely away from the unit under test.
Final users of the energy sources will want some of each kind of energy but
currently power companies don't distinguish between these kinds and this
causes a lack of user comprehension.

Incandescent light bulbs are called "negative-resitances" by formal
scientific community because they conduct more electrical current
when they are cold then when they are hot. Please Google something
called the "Wein-Bridge" oscillator circuit, that uses a small incandescent
light bulb as an active circuit element to help understand this.

This may be good for unregulated voltage sources because incandescents
tend to adjust their wattage to a more constant value in deference
to ohms law, but bad if you want to know precisely how much wattage
is being delivered at any time from constant or pulsing sources etc.
For example you could have the same incandescent light output from
a bulb at a lower voltage and it setting at a higher current and a
bulb at a higher voltage but having adjusted itself to a lower current.
The problem is that the adjustment towards a constant wattage
can help stabilise a dynamic system, but is only approximate.

:S:MarkSCoffman