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New invention of motion less generation of electric power

Started by powercat, August 26, 2009, 08:52:05 AM

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winsonali

aaron:
here is the wave shape this is the method where non of the magnetic field are crossing each other and producing lens force free electric power even with fly wheel effect

non of the magnetic crossing in there motion no braking force just electric power generation.

the only problem is this is not conventional power it comes with spikes so we need to do more work.......

Kator01


hartiberlin

Quote from: gotoluc on December 13, 2009, 09:55:19 PM
Wow Ali,

thanks for taking the time to post all this information.

Here is an interesting effect I just found a few hours ago while studying generator coil effects and possible solution to prevent Lenz Law in generator coils.

I have tested the coils in this flipped arrangement on a motor turning a magnet wheel and they produce just as good of output if not better then in normal mode but with next to no Lenz Law effect.

Link to video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTykNjDD0CM

Let me know what you think.

Luc
Hi Luc and Ali,
I see Luc has the same waveform as Ali
on his scope, when he just uses the side of his coils.

That is the right waveform but as the second coil
gets later the induction, it will probably not cancel Lenz´s law.

One trick to cancel a lot the Lenz law is to
short out  on/off the  coils very fast, when the magnet passes
by. ( at least 20 Hz shortout/open circuit rate, could be done with a buzzer relay
using a selfrunning relay( like doorbell relay ringer circuit) with using  the
additional relay switches)

This generates very high BackEMF spikes and these can be collected
via graetz bridge rectifier and cap.
When the coil is shorted out the Lenz drag is fully there and will
drive a current through the coil, but as soon as the coil
is opened it will generated a high voltage spike due to the stored
energy inside the coil and this could be captured.
And as the magnet ismoving on during this moment it
will make the induction voltage even higher and thus
the extracted spike energy gets bigger, but it will have no
drag during this moment.
So all in all you could reduce at least the Lenz drag by half and
have additionally a huge BackEMF collected spike energy output
rectified in the cap as DC voltage energy.

ALso you MUST use mechanical switches for
the best effect to take place.
Electronic switching is not good for it and it depends
on the contact materials used, what spike energy you can
get.
Best is to use graphite-copper for the contact material points.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

winsonali

stefan:

you reach to the core of the solution

Quotei was continuously switching t on and off there was not at all any effect on the speed with or without load  there is a key in my setup i have shield the south pole in north pole and even you move the disc by hand they keep on moving like a flywheel and produce output till it stops and never exerted any braking force  i am posting the pictures it might help you.

here i have done the switching very fast to get the proper cancellation of any lens force as well as braking effect

i used 10 coils in my setup very good output one coil in middle of magnets and one facing magnets. the collective output is converted to DC and then it is available uninterrupted

10 coils non moving mean no lose over slip ring or carbon brush

10 coils 5 magnets mean very high integration of phase cutting in other words

lets say 1500 RPM speed this is very easily achievable. 

10 coils * 5 magnets * 3 ( 3 phases on each magnets NS - SN - NS )

this means actual RPM ( rate of change of flux)  is 1500 * 10 * 5 * 3 = 225000 / 2 RPM

in simple words 5 magnets have three phases crossing 10 coils in one round well you can assume the rate of change of flux and resulting effect on voltage and power.

hartiberlin

Hi Ali,
many thanks for your latest pics and explanations.

to clarify:
Is the picture:



about your Genie or your coil-loudspeaker-magnet setup ?

P.S. Joe Newman is also using this principle.
He is opening the coil several times per revolution and collects the BackEMF
into a cap or into fluorescent tubes..
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