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New invention of motion less generation of electric power

Started by powercat, August 26, 2009, 08:52:05 AM

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Quote from: winsonali on November 24, 2009, 06:30:32 AM
100 % agreed with micro volts at antenna

process of PM manufacturing is based on cooling the material slowly/naturally in magnetic environment
once it is cooled to ambient temperature that magnetic force remain there for years

Quote from: exnihiloest on November 25, 2009, 02:57:21 AM
Bullshits. 
PM are made at room temperature from magnetic materials placed in pulsed magnetic fields generated from coils powered with capacitors banks.

Actually, your both right.

Just depends what material your magnetizing,
and what you want from it after it is made.

Both processes are valid and still currently used.

wattsup

Quote from: winsonali on November 24, 2009, 06:30:32 AM
100 % agreed with micro volts at antenna
process of PM manufacturing is based on cooling the material slowly/naturally in magnetic environment
once it is cooled to ambient temperature that magnetic force remain there for years
very simple you cannot define the relationship between energy required to make a permanent magnet and  force available through that magnet over the years how you will explain law of conservation of energy here.

So if you calculate the energy required to make let's say a 1 Tesla Permanent Magnet, then take that magnet and stick it under a horizontal metal plate then add a 1 pound piece of iron to it, then next to this you take an electromagnet that can produce 1 Tesla and stick it under another identical horizontal metal plate and add an identical 1 pound piece of iron to it and measure the energy expended to hold the electro magnet and 1 pound weight in place until the PM losses its power to hold it's piece of iron, we should see that the energy used to make the PM is far less then that expended by the electro magnet.

Would that show overunity, or, would it simply show the difference in inefficiencies of one method over the other given our present state of knowledge. You see, if you find a way to charge the PM in a much more efficient manner, that would tip the scale more in favor of the PM. Inversely, if you find a way to hold that electro-magnet by using a much more efficient recirculating circuit, it would sway the favor to that one.

I personally think that from the beginning, with Faraday and Maxwell, their published measurements already included some overunity provided directly by the ether that is everywhere in space. They just did not know it at the time and all technology has followed in that direction ever since. And, we have never been able to produce an etherless environment to test these otherwise.

But imagine if at that pivotal moment both declared that all electrical systems encompassed let's say 80% of actual applied energy and 20% coming from the ether to both help convey electrons in a conductor, provide the lattice to produce magnetic fields, quench or fill the voids created by expanding and collapsing magnetic fields and provide the medium for these fields or waves to travel in the universe, then or perspective of overunity versus the laws of conservation would not be the same. There is just no way of knowing this because even doing tests in a vacuum will not remove the ether from that space. Maybe in a black hole but who wants to go there. lol

If on the other hand we knew about this overunity presence that is all around us, we would have been working on ways to increase the 20% side and decrease the 80% side, knowing that the 20% phenomenon is in fact a reality. Whereas today, those that believe there is the existence of an omnipresent ether energy are looked upon as crazy wishful thinking madmen.

winsonali

QuoteBullshits. 
PM are made at room temperature from magnetic materials placed in pulsed magnetic fields generated from coils powered with capacitors banks.

very simple answer


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_magnet#Magnetic_materials

Ferromagnetic materials can be magnetized in the following ways:
Heating the object above its Curie temperature, allowing it to cool in a magnetic field and hammering it as it cools. This is the most effective method, and is similar to the industrial processes used to create permanent magnets.

there are other method as well

My knowledge is not very good and far more less then other forum members but my temperament and determination to do some thing is very high.


The point is not in how we make magnets

1) the point is amount of energy consumed in making PM vs amount of energy it will release over the years   

2) about ohms law any object with fixed resistance consume fixed power until you do not change voltages

so once again here v=IR or v is directly proportional to current where R is constant

now p = v*I or v = p / I  and when resistance is constant it will consume constant power so here v is inversely proportional to I

i am working to develop methods for under standing and using passive zones where you cannot change the shapes and power  of the signal.

look guys its not necessary that what ever i think is right i am trying to convert my brain waves into practical means failure is mine  success everyone will enjoy.

 
   

winsonali

QuoteIf on the other hand we knew about this overunity presence that is all around us, we would have been working on ways to increase the 20% side and decrease the 80% side, knowing that the 20% phenomenon is in fact a reality. Whereas today, those that believe there is the existence of an omnipresent ether energy are looked upon as crazy wishful thinking madmen.

wattsup:
very well said this is where we need to do brain storming a single small clue may lead the change in our living style.

winsonali

GravityBlock:

i will invite senior selected members of this forum after completion of my current work

but here is some more brain waves might help understanding combination of electrical charges and  magnetic fields

for wave propagation in passive zone we need at least quarter of the size of wave length

if you make a transformer equal to the  quarter of the wave length of frequency you will get passive power in active zone  that is 1 to many format without power lose there are many mechanical analogies for this...