I see an economic diasater coming...

[infringer]

First off there is a pretty good reference to my the 500 other programs they can cut other then entitlements to the people.
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The United States GDP is 14 trillion a year...

Which is second to the European Unions 18 trillion per year.

The European Union would never be able to function as fluidly as the United States because there states are not states and they are not United it is a cabbage patch of different countries they call a union...
The largest GDP in any one of them countries is 2 trillion.

Do we have enough to pay our bills? Yes I believe so...
Do we have enough to pay our debt? Yes I believe so...

Did you know without touching the medicare or Social Security or entitlements to the people there are over 500 different programs that could and should be cut as they are earmark funds.

Did you know that the government politics voted for a 25% pay raise for themselves and they froze the wages of people who are fighting for the country allowing no more yearly raises for military positions the only thing they are allowed is step increases...

Did you know that the government wants more control over your life? And this is the real reason they want us to feel the pinch?
Think about it for one second:

Privacy violations of everyone warrants not needed...

Security cameras every where you look. And even where you don't see them in space.

Social Networking information databases all property of the government for profiling.

Terrorist threats created on a daily basis to manipulate the masses.

Media Outfits constantly repeating these threats these outlets owned by crooked controlling people such as Rupert Murdoch which will do anything to earn an extra buck even drop stories to control you and play your emotions so you make irrational decisions.

They want us to be like china and be submissive little human machines that are basically like slaves.

Instead of laws that protect you the people they want laws that protect the corporations.

Instead of fair taxes across the board they want to tax the poor heavier keeping them poor and eliminating the middle class which is competition for these corporations which they do not wish to tax.

This all boils down to control the corporations both large and small want to control you they want you to live with nothing in cramped quarters use no gas like a third world country and have nothing for yourself other then a roof over your head.

They don't want to ever see the chains come off you they want you to devote every waking thought to making them better so that you do not think of something and become some influence that could stop there financial stream and gravy train.

The only financial disaster I see is an outright fraud on we the people there is no need for things such as bombing Libiya to make the french happy. There is no need for about 500 of these government programs as I have stated. They want you to feel something to make you believe that we need the next freedom we have taken away and they don't want us to open our eyes to these things.

If you are constantly submissive you will be used to submitting and you will continue to submit more and more.

Just remember what made our nation great and prosperous was not being submissive by no means it was standing up to the rights, freedoms, unions, lifestyles and did I say freedoms.

Think about it why are they working so hard now to break up unions in the government it is not people who run it anymore it is corporations.

Why is it that corporations are pocketing up to 70% more cash then they were 20 years ago wages have not gotten that great but yet these gluttons get to take home more and more profits and eliminate more and more jobs through the use of robots.

Who controls this country really? The people control this country they just don't want you to believe it we must all unite again and stand against the theft of our way of life and the lives of our children.

We need to stop looking to the news for information consumption and really think if we do watch the news could they be covering this because they want even more control of your lives yet?

Its REAL people this is no conspiracy theory or whatever all of these mentioned things are happening right before your eyes...

Maybe the Myans knew 2012 was either a new age of serenity or slavery depending upon what we the people allow happen to us...

Eliminate Doom and Gloom that is forced into your head by these media outlets do not believe half of it it is a corporate machine trying to put there fat thumb on you and keep you under it! This is only being created to make all of there crafted plans follow through they want this to be felt in the pocket book so we will believe that there is nothing insidious going on ...

There is !

How come these companies donate millions in campaign money for house reps all the way to presidents and why does the figures keep getting higher and higher?

You think your government is not bought out when a monarchy sits down and has a chat with Corporate giant Rupert Murdoch for his illegal doings something so horrific it would normally be considered Treason to any normal citizen or a life of imprisonment in democracy yet this rich fucker gets a slap on the hand while they sue collage people for stealing a song or a movie for 20,000 or better an already poor person trying to make something of themselves.

Its sick, Its Twisted, Its Corporacracy welcome to the idea of the new world order total control of your lives!

I know what your thinking I'll just sit here eat my chocolate chip cookie and continue to watch it happen because I still have milk in the ice box... Just go right on ahead keep doing so but I would reason to say that the future for you is bleek!

The real thing is I see this at every job that I work at it is sad. There are people that cannot go a lunch hour with out trash talk... People trying to stab one another in the back constantly with there seeds they plant in peoples heads against one another all over. And I sit back and think to myself if people were to work together like they used to and accomplish things as a group instead of underhanding one another they could reach there goals a lot faster. I also sit and think if people are like this at a factory is this what the true nature of people is now adays to screw one another over?

If it is then I see no reason to continue fighting for a country because we are all lost and maybe it would be best if we all ended up impoverished because it would bring back the good qualities in people!

-infringer-
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[triffid]

Infringer you are right about these giant corporations He who has the gold(money) makes all the rules.The little corporations are kicked down into submission before the giant ones too.I did like what you said here:Just remember what made our nation great and prosperous was not being submissive by no means it was standing up to the rights, freedoms, unions, lifestyles and did I say freedoms.   In the beginning of our country there were people willing to lay down their lives for their country.It could be argued that too many people got fat and lazy.When people get hungry they start to take action again.I hate BP because of that oil spill in the gulf.11 people lost their lives on that oil rig because someone wanted to go cheap on the safety rules.I used to work in the oil industry for a year and saw the hazards but no one brought it home to like one guy did.I interviewed for a job as a chemist in a lab but the guy had no face left.It had been blown off in an explosion two years before in his lab.The longer I looked at him the sicker I got.I did not take the job.today I still have a face.Your life is more important than a job.triffid

[triffid]

When people keep spinning their wheels they get nowhere fast.Much of the media is devoted to treating people like sheep.American Idol is designed to keep your mind off of the important issues like the senseless wars in the middle east now.Amercia could be hell bent on going solar with tax credits and other incentatives.New solar devices could be invented.I propose a new tv program that gets to the heart of much of our troubles.I call it "American Idle".I would show the empty buildings that used to have jobs in them.I would show visits to countries with booming economies.U get the idea.triffid

[NickZ]

  We are quickly approaching the time when the thousands of hungry fed up people with no jobs, nor money, nor housing, nor even any credit left, will just burn down the cities that have them caught in a desperate trap. And then go after the people living in the country side, and take what they want from them, including their solar panels, wind mills, hydro systems, food sources, guns, etz...
What the corporations want is no one competing with them, even if it means that many of us will have to die as a consequence. Will we allow that to happen???  Or... are we just their slaves,  as it seams. 
Is it really even up to us anymore?  What can really be done, now.
  Keep printing and loaning out more worthless paper money, and we'll see what happens.  Just what THEY want to happen. 

[infringer]

American Idle sounds good I suggest you take a documentary approach....

What can we do you ask...

There is no simple answer NickZ there are movements being made some of them are very controversial such as "Anonymous" which are known for hacking corporations like Monsanto recently... But really it is not hacking which is the reason for this movement if you visit there website which is http://www.whatis-theplan.org/forum you will find that they plan on doing many peaceful protests to bring the injustices of the corporate machine to light and show the world that we are not sheep we are the "mob" as known in the days of old.

There is also the non profit organization which I donate to http://www.eff.org

And there is also another website that helps people that have little or no chances http://www.hackersforcharity.org/

These are just some of the ways we can make a difference we can also make a difference by focusing our efforts on forming support systems at our jobs rather then trying to be individualistic and worrying about your own selfish needs.

Family owned businesses are just as bad as corporations there structure is full of rats, backstabbers, and narcs. If you are not on a friendship or kinship level with the powers that be you will be stuck in a crappy spot and promised a bunch of great stuff that is all nothing but smoke and mirrors to keep you suckered into staying and putting up with stuff that really should be illegal. While all the time you waste at these places busting your but to make the lives of the friends and family better you are ruining your health, wasting your youth, and being exploited. They keep you mentally mind fucked until they feel you have reached a ripe age or physical limit then get rid of you and find the next sucker to take up your slack. Believe it this is real too I have been to some of there gatherings and when they get drunk they actually talk about this kinda sick shit. There latest and greatest plans include exploiting legal and illegal immigrants. It all is fine and dandy when you are not the one being exploited but remember every dog has his day!

Just remember no matter what the crazy debt number is we all must live and as a people we will find a way!
We would not logically as a people allow for this debt knowing our history and what debt causes so it is not the people that are running this show it is corporations there are many motives behind there actions.

There is a scheme behind all of this or we would not have took this route there is an insidious plan behind all of this:
One thing we know for sure they want more control over our lives they do not like to see us free of there chains and prefer that we die in chains rather then free people. This is the only part of the plan that we can see.

What is the other part(s) of the insidious plan? I wish I knew! I can say that china whom keeps borrowing to us must have something to do with it weather its against china or china is in on it against us there is something to this...

-infringer-
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