I see an economic diasater coming...

[triffid]

The news is positive only if you intend to buy houses later.triffid

[truthbeknown]

Maybe we all need to start growing our own food as much as possible.
Well, back to the Farm...

J.

[triffid]

I believe with you that people growing more food wherever they live is a good solution.I heard of one family in calif raising chickens in their back yard plus they had every square inch of their paid for house growing food that they could eat or sell/Their driveway was filled with crops.They used to be the weird people in the neighborhood but they made the news one night when I was watching.Two years ago what they were doing made a lot of sense to their neighbors.triffid

[triffid]

1. Scam artist, adept at taking the savings from old folks, or in the corporate world adept at securing government payouts and pocketing them without delivering on what you got the funds for in the first place.
2. Organized theft project manager - able to create massive disturbances in the poor parts of town to occupy all legal agencies, then mobilizing large numbers in the rich parts of town to steal everything from the houses of the politicians and CEOs, who will be the only ones left with anything to steal.
1 and 2 are professions growing in this country
When you start seeing the wealthy fleeing our country to keep from getting abducted/rolled/killed you will know we are at the end. Within 30 to 40 years the United States will be just like Mexico is now. Our population will be mostly hispanic in origin within 20 years.
This is the fault of our leadership, corporate and political, all parties, across the board, who are more interested in lining their pockets and taking care of themselves and their cronies than they are with the well being of the general population and the fabric of the country. History books will note that America as we knew it lasted about 300 years before crumbling like the Roman empire, the French aristocracy, and the Russian Tsars before them.
However, if every incumbent now in power is voted out starting in the upcoming election and for the next few years, and IF the voting public demands a COMPLETE change in how EVERYTHING political and corporate is done now as well as demanding that america become like other countries as respects border and immigrant control, import tariffs, etc. are done, there MAY be time to cure the malignancy which has metasized in our country.

[the_big_m_in_ok]

So the question may be asked.....Is anything positive going to come from all of this that is happening?

J.

Well, no, as triffid and I have implied in our posts, the economy will collapse, and no one person has anything to do with it.  This has happened for all of recorded history in a cyclic pattern.
truthbeknown, Reply # 694 said:

Maybe we all need to start growing our own food as much as possible.
Well, back to the Farm...
J.

triffid basically agreed in the next Post, #695.

I believe I said something similar to what the two above said awhile ago, and it was probably on this thread.  And, I agree.  San Franciscans are beginning to turn small urban parks into large gardens with The City's approval.  So, they all have a point.

@triffid
In regard to your post #697,  it's excellent.  But, I'd say we don't have 20-40 years for all that to happen.  People are becoming furious as we write all this on this thread.  It's mostly the "politics as usual", which raises Americans' anger.  Deservedly so.  Do I recommend anything to do as a remedy?  No.   Whatever I do can be changed or discredited by someone else.  Anything I, or anyone else, does.  That's why I don't get up in caught the world's "mishegas." (mee-sha-gaas) (Yiddish for "crazy", "eccentric")

As I think I said before, I'll wait and see what happens; trusting my luck all the while.

*Lee picks up his soda; asks for the popcorn bucket, "please"*

--Lee