I see an economic diasater coming...

[triffid]

So burning fat or oil will split water into hydrogen and oxygen then burn that hydrogen and oxygen acting like a catalyst of some kind.Without electricity.Using some heat energy plus oil molecules.triffid

[triffid]

One of the hottest, most intense fires you can make is to burn water and oil together.About the easiest method is to place a steel or iron plate on a couple of stones 1' [30 cm] above ground level. Light a fire beneath this plate to make it really hot and while it is heating up arrange a pipe or narrow trough about 2' or 3' [60 or 90 cm] long. One end of this pipe or trough is over the centre of the plate, and the other end is 1' [30 cm] or so higher than the plate. Into this top end of the pipe arrange, by means of a funnel and trough, water and sump oil to be fed down the pipe to the hot plate. The proportion of flow is two or three drops of water to one drop of oil. When the water and oil fall onto the hot plate it burns with a hot white name of very great heat. The rate of flow can be governed by cutting a channel in corks which plug the bottles holding the water and oil, or if tins are used, piece holes in the bottoms of the tins and use a plug to control the flow.This type of fire is excellent for an incinerator when great heat is required to burn out rubbish. It also makes an excellent 'Campfire' where strong flame and light are required and wood is in short supply.

[triffid]

So this has been overlooked or not recognized for what it is.Another method of splitting water then using that method to create more heat.Yes this is open source now.triffid

[triffid]

I may have to retract myself on this.I have no proof that water is being split here.It could be that the water is instantly turning into steam.thus expanding the fire.Not adding to it.Oil smokes at about 400 degrees F.The volume of water expands when it turns into steam.It is possible to put out a grease fire if you  pour 500 gallons of water on it.According to Mythbusters (2009 season).I guess we need some experimentation on this.I am not set up to experiment.triffid

[ResinRat2]

Hi triffid,

I agree with your last writing here. You are pouring an immiscible fluid onto a very hot surface, and this will very rapidly cause a layer of steam to form between the liquid and the hot metal surface. The whole mixture will begin to skirt across the metal surface on the gaseous layer, the gas will expand into the liquid and rapidly increase the volume of the entire mixture. This will cause your violent mixture to spread in every available direction almost instantly.

If it was a separation of hydrogen and oxygen in the correct stoichiometric ratios you would have an extremely explosive gas just itching to detonate at any available heat source; and it wouldn't be just any old detonation. Just ask people on this forum who have ignited small volumes of correctly mixed hydrogen and oxygen. Even a small amount would DETONATE and leave your ears ringing and all the hot oil shot in every direction. You would have been badly burned. My guess is there would probably have been a fire involved as well. Maybe not, it might have just blown itself out everywhere.

Thankfully that did not happen.