I see an economic diasater coming...

[conradelektro]

You're right, Conradelectro: the so-called New World targets are never achievable when DEMOCRACY rules. Paradoxicaly, we need a kind of TYRANNY to get there.

DEMOCRACY is well disguised TYRANNY. Clever tyrants declare democracy. Stupid tyrants rule by force. Clever tyrants hide behind rigged public votes.

Democracy is a dream like freedom and justice. One can strive for democracy, freedom and justice, but it can not be reached.

Just imagine what should be done to you if the world was just? Do you deserve what you have amassed? Should you be punished for what you have done to others? Are you free of sin?

Greetings, Conrad

[the_big_m_in_ok]

       OK, I agree with you on that point.   I also have this:

http://www.businessinsider.com/deutsche-bank-stock-market-collapse-fiscal-stimulus-2016-8

       Everyone's economy will be in "hurtin' " status in due course.   World Domination won't enter the picture if too many people to be counted are starving without power and basic services from the Gov't.   It's only to look to the future to arrive at very serious consequences that these things happen.
       The whole world will be involved in the "economic meltdown".

There's something else:
       One of the Members indicated that he thought the American Gov't was hell-bent on worldwide takeover.   He also said he wasn't fearful of Russia.
       You realize?   Alexander the Great tried to conquer Asia and after his army won enough battles, surviving opposing fighters would run ahead of his army, warn whomever they met along the way, and then those populations would raise their own armies and give his army ever more resistance.   Worldwide takeover is impossible.   Too many people will hate whomever tries with a real passion.

       This is absolutely correct:
http://overunity.com/8010/i-see-an-economic-diasater-coming/4170/#.V7SkktL2a1s   
       Posted Reply #4181

Time's almost up on this computer.

Will return.

-Lee

[allcanadian]

@Conrad

Your self-righteousness easily beats any US citizen. I have been to Canada and the USA and in principle I could only find more or less the same people (like anywhere on the world).[/size]

If you mean moral superiority then maybe you are correct in some small way. You see in Canada unlike the U.S. we did not illegally invade multiple sovereign countries to plunder there resources for profit without justification, we did not carpet bomb millions of civilians (women and children) into oblivion nor did we randomly execute them. We did not illegally detain thousands without legal council in violation of international law and we did not continuously torture these illegal detainee's and then debate the fucking virtues of torture in our parliament. As you can imagine I have a slight problem with this psychotic if not cowardice behavior unbecoming of real men of any moral conviction.


You see all of these acts are considered illegal or war crimes in Canada and if any politician here in this day and age so much as implied that randomly carpet bombing civilians and torture were in any way acceptable they would find themselves unemployed overnight. This is why our former Prime Minister and the Conservative Party were decimated in the last election?. We unanimously rejected this psychotic behavior and the American way they promoted and if you see this as self-righteousness then so be it... I'm okay with that. Any people any where can say and believe whatever they choose however we will be judged by what we do... not what we say, what we do, as in what we have actually done in reality.

I do not try to be politically correct. But the big surprise (once I started travelling to many countries, and I worked in six different countries on three continents) was the similarity of human failure and kindness everywhere.

The truth is not how we act in front of others nor what we would have them believe. The truth is the stuff you tell your best friends when you think nobody else is listening. The truth is all that bizarre shit you do when you think nobody else is looking. The truth is a crowd of strong and courageous people and then a car backfires in the distance and everyone is under the tables except for two... who are courageous. The truth is thousands of caring people filled with empathy travelling along a highway and all pass by that stranded car but only one stops...who cares.


People are always everything that it good and right and just in this world however seldom if ever who they appear to be when it comes time to prove their convictions in reality.


AC

[camelherder49]

While you are running us down, think about what it would be like for your great country
to actually be part of Japan or Germany. Sometimes close proximity comes in handy.

[Farmhand]

AC, the problem is that our countries both yours and mine Australia are allies to the US and our governments bend to the will of US foreign policy.
Our countries both take part in Afghanistan and Iraq ect. I think the line is drawn at the point of the original interference in the engineering of these conflicts, I think that is all the US and Israel (CIA and Mossad).

Many here participate in group think and fall victim to mass media lies and propaganda.

ie. We just had a census (it is a real mess online form problems) beside the point, one of the fear campaigns run on facebook was that even if people are non religious they should mark a religion other than Muslim (preferably Christian), the fear campaign says that all Muslims will mark Muslim and if too many people mark no religion then the country will become a Muslim country and Sharia law will be implemented. It's so silly it is almost beyond belief that people buy into it but they do.

Muslims make up only a small percentage of the population most likely less than 5%. It cannot happen. People should tell the truth. Many people who have never been to church and are not Christians think that the denomination they were allotted as children (Catholic, Baptist ect.) is their religion, but it isn't.

Besides there is supposed to be separation of religion and state, but that is obviously not the case, many politicians are (pretend Christians), they swear on the bible and say they are Christians but they do not behave as such.

I am not a religious person. In my opinion there should be freedom to believe whatever people want but it should be all kept private. All religions should lose their tax free status and preaching should be illegal. No decision of government should take any religious beliefs into account at all. It should be a non issue. There should be no Church bells ringing and no (calls to prayer) by loudspeaker.

In a non religious country/state there should be no allowances for religion to encroach on anyone's rights or freedoms to live without the nagging of religious jibber jabber, I have yet to have a Muslim come to my door to try to preach to me but I have had many Christians. Lately I ask them to write on a piece of paper their name and address, when they ask why I say it is because they now know where I live so it is only fair they tell me where they live so that I can go to their house and preach to them. They try to ignore the request but they end up talking to a very angry man or a closed door. As a sane adult I do not need religious people trying to tell me what is and what isn't.

I say that all religions should have all special privileges taken away. and all mention of religion should be banned from all sittings of government after that is achieved.

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