I see an economic diasater coming...

[Temporal Visitor]

Temporal Visitor wrote:       Temporal Visitor,
       I agree with about everything you say, which I effectively 'snipped' with this response.   I think your answers are correct, in the main.   The subject of this thread is that the economy will in fact collapse and everyone except very rural 'mountain men' will be affected badly.   Even extremely badly.

Thank you for your reply, it is interesting and even more interesting is its timing as answers to questions lodged elsewhere.

I have read those articles, among many others besides my own experience and agree the cake is mostly baked "economically". As far as being "worried" I take comfort where I find it: Truth.

Sometimes in books, articles, or even music from the past that comes to mind,

"When I think of all the worries
People seem to find
And how they're in a hurry
To complicate their minds

By chasing after money
And dreams that can't come true
I'm glad that we are different
We've better things to do" (The Grass Roots 1967)

Those presently chasing after money will perhaps eventually learn it is only fools gold, very temporal and not true wealth.

With no PROMISE of TOMORROW - I do have "better things to do" than worry, because "Today is the tomorrow we worried about yesterday." (Ralph Waldo Emerson) and considering as Tesla is credited with saying: "The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine."

"In reality"; there is nothing to worry about when/if one considers your "Especially later" to mean working towards their own future/eternity BEFORE THE WHEELS COME OFF the dying systems people cling to and choose to pretend are not in "economic" collapse already well under way.

Many just don't "get it" and;
NO MATTER "How you tried to set them free.
They would not listen, they're not listening still.
Perhaps they never will..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dipFMJckZOM

[SeaMonkey]

Will today mark the Beginning of the End?

[Farmhand]

Thank you for your reply, it is interesting and even more interesting is its timing as answers to questions lodged elsewhere.

I have read those articles, among many others besides my own experience and agree the cake is mostly baked "economically". As far as being "worried" I take comfort where I find it: Truth.

Sometimes in books, articles, or even music from the past that comes to mind,

"When I think of all the worries
People seem to find
And how they're in a hurry
To complicate their minds

By chasing after money
And dreams that can't come true
I'm glad that we are different
We've better things to do" (The Grass Roots 1967)

Those presently chasing after money will perhaps eventually learn it is only fools gold, very temporal and not true wealth.

With no PROMISE of TOMORROW - I do have "better things to do" than worry, because "Today is the tomorrow we worried about yesterday." (Ralph Waldo Emerson) and considering as Tesla is credited with saying: "The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine."

"In reality"; there is nothing to worry about when/if one considers your "Especially later" to mean working towards their own future/eternity BEFORE THE WHEELS COME OFF the dying systems people cling to and choose to pretend are not in "economic" collapse already well under way.

Many just don't "get it" and;
NO MATTER "How you tried to set them free.
They would not listen, they're not listening still.
Perhaps they never will..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dipFMJckZOM

Every day is a gift, how we spend it tells a lot of us.
We should all have a "bug out plan" to include those we know
who are less able to "bug out". If those we would like to help
want help is not up to us. Some must survive ! Unadulterated.
So to speak.

..

[Temporal Visitor]

Every day is a gift, how we spend it tells a lot of us.

Without any doubt TIME is an individual gift. Some use it wisely, some waste it foolishly never even realizing they have been given it and other phenomenal gifts well beyond their own thoughts. I have learned to try hard to be appreciative of ALL the gifts given and not waste any of them while still trying to help others in need when, if, and where possible.

We should all have a "bug out plan" to include those we know
who are less able to "bug out". If those we would like to help
want help is not up to us. Some must survive ! Unadulterated.
So to speak.
..

"bug out plan" is fine but realistically: To where? Seems to me each of us takes our problems with us anywhere we go despite our best laid plans.

For sure those that don't want help; yes they are on their own, and that any in fact survive "UN-adualterated" will be yet another gift. Especially if/when they wake up to find: there own ignorance offers them no "economy" what-so-ever to survive another day in.

IMO: These are hard learned lessons each will learn for themselves.

[allcanadian]

@TP

"bug out plan" is fine but realistically: To where? Seems to me each of us takes our problems with us anywhere we go despite our best laid plans.

If the shit ever does hit the fan then people are the problem because they are unpredictable and 99% wouldn't last a week on their own because they are basically like helpless little children. Turn off the power, gas, water, close the gas stations and grocery stores and most are basically screwed overnight.

For sure those that don't want help; yes they are on their own, and that any in fact survive "UN-adualterated" will be yet another gift. Especially if/when they wake up to find: there own ignorance offers them no "economy" what-so-ever to survive another day in.

History is pretty clear on who would actually survive a world changing crisis event. Those who can walk into the bush with nothing but the shirt on their back will survive and all others will eventually perish. They will eventually run out of food, clean water, clothing, shelter, ammo etc.. and perish because they have no practical survival skills. Thus money, stock piling and planning simply delay that which is inevitable in the long term and their is no helping stupid.

On a side note not much would drastically change for many indigenous people who already know how to live off the land on their own and have for tens of thousands of years.

AC