N-Machine updates?

[tishatang]

Hi Tropes

The magnetic field of the second disc is reversed causing the second axle brush to be opposite from the first.

Here is another good link.  Explore the whole amasci.com site for mind bending ideas.  Bill Beaty is a genius and yet, practical.

Click on the "two N-machines merged".

http://amasci.com/freenrg/n-mach.html

Here you can see the reversed magnetic fields.  This is even simpler than Teslas patent.  However, I think the two discs of Beaty's design need to be connected together only at their extremes edges.  Otherwise, I feel his coupling will short out the current?

Tishatang

[tropes]

Tishatang
Bill Beaty has done some impressive work. Thanks for the links. I have uploaded an image to http://theowlnest.com/kickbypage.html . If you click on " Dual C-generator" you will see my version of Tasla's dynamo-electric machine. In your opinion, would there be a current flowing between the two terminals when the iron disks are rotating?
Tropes

[tishatang]

Tropes

I looked at your design and I have the following comments.

Yes, there should be current flowing as far as I can tell.

However, I suggest the following:

The rotors should be non magnetic.  Iron will attract to the magnets.  Use copper or aluminum.

The connector looks like the same as a brush contact.  This is a source of loss because it is contacting the high linear speed of the rotor.

Since you are driving the rotors with a cog gear arrangement, why dont you just do away with the connector and use the input driving gear in its place.  You could use a large diameter gear in between the outer rotors, the rotors having gear cut edges, and by using conductive lubricants use the driving gear as the connector between the rotors.  The driving gear will have to be insulated from the shaft.

Also, to simplify construction, if I recall correctly, the rotor does not have to be moving separate from the magnetic fields.  You could just glue the magnets to the rotor and rotate them together as a unit.  You would have to experiment to see if this is true.

Hope this helps

Tishatang

[tropes]

Tishatang
Thank you for taking the time. In his patent description, Tesla suggests either copper, brass or iron for the rotors. Maybe a combination of two metals; one for each rotor. The idea of gluing the magnets to the rotor is intreguing. That would certainly simplify the generator. I read some theory that the magnetic field remains stationary while the sandwiched disk and the magnet material rotates. As for the connector, it takes much less machining to have brushes rather than a set of gears when constructing a prototype. However, I have made a change to my drawing.
Thanks again from Canada
Tropes

[lancaIV]

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